Hi Yen-Ju

>> I am just giving Etoile 0.2 a try on Solaris. It took me a while to
>> check out how to setup the dtlogin files. If anyone is interested,
>> please drop me a note. I now have Etoile/Azalea running and built the
>> first applications. Here are my observations:
>>
>> •There seems to be a problem with window titles. They are often
>> followed by an arbitrary numbers of garbage characters. It seems that
>> terminating Null of a cString is missing.
>
>   It is reported as bug.

Is Azalea - in opposite to Window Maker - able to present unicode 
titles (ä,ö,ü,...)? I wasn't able to check that out yet.

>> •Setting a window edited with [window setDocumentEdited:YES] is not
>> reflected visually by a broken arrow like it is under Window Maker or
>> on OPENSTEP or under Cocoa. This is an absolute must for a (GNUstep)
>> window manager. I can't believe that this has not yet been implemented
>> and suppose it's because something went wrong with my installation. 
>> May
>> be I am missing a resource. Any idea?
>
>   It is not implemented yet.

Thanks for the info. Will it be any time soon? I haven't looked into 
the sources yet so I really have no idea how difficult that would be. 
But since Azalea is written in Objective-C this should be rather 
simple, shouldn't it? Will this be harder than just overwriting 
[NSWindow setDocumentEdited:] to exchange the bitmap in the window 
title?

>> •How is the AZDock intended to be configured to offer a specific set
>> of applications for startup. I sthere some documentation? Can it be
>> comapared anyhow with the Window Make rdock or the MacOSX dock or is 
>> it
>> just shelf for presenting the list of started applications?
>
>   Currently, you can launch an application and use contextual to
>   keep they in dock.

Ok, I see! That's good enough for now. I already wondered what this 
"Keep in dock" would be good for. :-)

I have one further point I would like to mention here. MacOSX, OPENSTEP 
and I believe even Windows give the user visual feedback when the main 
thread of an application is busy for more that 2-3s by exchanging the 
standard mouse pointer with an hourglass (while the mouse is over an 
application window). I (and the users of our apps) consider this pretty 
important. This is obviously the responsibility of the window manager 
(--> Azalea). Would it be hard to implement that in Azalea? IMHO this 
is much more important for Etoile to become an alternative for MacOSX 
than this or that further goody application. At least in an enterprise 
environment most users are working with only one application (most of 
the time) anyway (--> ERP), and that is not StepChat.app or whatever. 
:-)

Thanks for your answers and thanks a lot for this Etoile release (I 
especially appreciate the new NSPopUpButton look-and-feel)!

Regards,

  Andreas


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