>> Home                         etoile-project.org
>> - News                               /news (blogs, press, feeds)
>
> I like these sub-categories.  We should try to keep a clear
> distinction between blogs (what developers are saying) and news (what
> the project is saying officially).
>
>> - Etoile                             /etoile -> /etoile/$version (overview)
>
> I'm not sure we need the $version bit here.  Could you elaborate?

$version would be the number representing the current version of  
Etoile. So, when 0.3 is released, /etoile will redirect to /etoile/ 
0.3. When 0.4 comes out, we redirect /etoile to /etoile/0.4. This  
allows us to keep old versions available for users of those systems  
or the curious. Think of it like tagging version branches in SVN.

>> - Download                           /download -> /etoile/$version/download
>>                            (should also provide a link to /more)
>
> I presume this will be a little wrapper around the download.gna.org/
> etoile stuff?

Right -- something in the style of our site that links directly to  
the tarball or zip or iso whatever hosted on GNA.

>> - Features                           /features -> /etoile/$version/features
>
> I'm not sure why this is separate from /Etoile.

I saw /etoile as an overview about the project, and /features as a  
more indepth detailing of specific technologies. So, for example, / 
etoile would discuss the overall ideas (versioning, collaboration,  
projects), and /features would provide subdirectories for things like  
CoreObject, Camaelon and Azalea.

>> - Support                            /support (contact, bug submission, etc)
>
> Yup.
>
>> - Get More                           /more (apps, add-ons, etc)
>
> I'm not completely sure what goes here.

This is a bit of future-planning. I was planning on using this for  
providing links to 3rd party developments: applications, components,  
themes, wallpaper, etc. Stuff that's not hosted in our repository but  
that users may be interested in. We probably don't need much of it  
now, but if we want to build a community we need to provide easy  
access to stuff like this. Two things that might be useful there  
immediately would be the GNOME Nesedah theme and a link to GNUMail,  
for example.

>> - For Developers             /dev -> dev.etoile-project.org
>>    - Getting Started         dev.etoile-project.org/start
>>    - Installation            dev.etoile-project.org/install
>
> These two are definitely needed.  Currently we have more accurate
> information on the blog than on the main site for installing.
>
>>    - Documentation           dev.etoile-project.org/docs (needs to allow for
>> user comments)
>
> We can automatically generate PDF and HTML documentation for
> frameworks, and I suggest we start doing that and putting it online
> soon.  Any insufficiently documented framework should be treated as a
> bug for the 0.3 release.
>
>>    - Status                  dev.etoile-project.org/status (CIA feed)
>
> I'd like to see this on the front page.  As soon as people visit the
> site, there should be something saying 'look at us!  We're an active
> project.'  The GNUstep site is the exact opposite of this; the front
> apge rarely changes, and there is nothing dated on the page giving an
> indication of when it was last modified, so a casual visitor could
> easily assume the project was dead.

Yeah -- we definitely need a little status widget on the home page,  
perhaps just providing the text and datetime of the latest check-in.  
I see that going to a more in-depth page, which would basically just  
be a full feed of the CIA page, and then a link to CIA.

>> ( -> represents a redirect)
>
> A lot of the exact URLs will be defined by how we implement it in the
> end.  If we are using GNA, then this will affect things unless we put
> some frame wrapper on etoile-project.org.

That's what I propose. I'd actually prefer if users never got  
redirected to GNA, but rather stayed on our site and just downloaded  
content from GNA. I think casual users may be scared off by the  
"Can't verify the identity of gna.org" warning that pops up when you  
first access GNA's site.

>> Please let me know if there is anything I'm missing. Other
>> comments, suggestions, flames, etc are always welcome.
>
> Two things I would say are missing:
>
> - FAQ.
>       We want a quick reference to questions like 'are you trying to clone
> OS X'
>
> - People
>       It might just be me, but I find it easier to trust a Free Software
> project if people are willing to put their names to it.  Having
> faceless developers makes it much harder to relate to the project.
> We have something like this on the current site, but it's quite well
> hidden.

Yep -- agreed on both suggestions.


J.



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