Don't forget SCSI's ability to multitask which is becoming it's
only reason to use it in a server environment.
I have the same workstation setup as you do, for the same
reason.  It was a pretty hard lesson to learn that I could have
done the same thing with IDE and not wasted so much money on
heavy duty SCSI stuff.  Sigh.

I just noticed that my email program is responding directly to
you.  It is supposed to be responding to the list server.  Can
you do me a favor and direct your response to the list server if
I miss it again?  I don't know why it chose yours to do this to. 
Normally it works.



>>> Cory Petkovsek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/4/2000 11:56:28
AM >>>
RAID 1 is faster for read than RAID 5, however RAID 5 is still
pretty fast for reading because it doesn't need to calculate so
much, mostly on writes.  Hardware raid is vastly superior to
software raid though.  And SCSI 3 Ultra160 should be superior to
IDE anything.  But apparently it is not.

It looks like the only advantages to a SCSI system is everything
but speed and cost: space, external arrays, fault tollerance.

Yet IDE is faster and cheaper, apparently.

Cory



On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 11:27:59AM -0800, Bob Crandell wrote:
> From what I understand about RAID,  RAID 1 (mirroring) is
faster
> than RAID 2 because of the math involved.  This is true of
> software or hardware RAID.
> 
> I don't know if it's true of other OS, but Novell
reads/writes
> from/to the drive that's not busy and syncs during idle times.

> This makes for a system that is visibly faster than a single
> drive box.
> 
> Ah yes.  I get it now.  The old man page ploy.  Be prepared
to
> be impressed.
> 
> >>> Cory Petkovsek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/4/2000
10:59:54
> AM >>>
> Ha, your firewall harddrive looks faster than your fileserver.

> You should run it a couple of times so the first time it
> allocates memory and the other times it runs a real
benchmark.
> 
> You start tweaking by reading the man page.
> 
> quick reference:
> c1/0 32-bit/16-bit mode
> d1/0 dma on/off
> 
> ie. hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hda
> 
> Chris's Ultra66 went from 3.5mb to 27mb/sec.  It looks like
his
> single 7200rpm ultra66 drive reads faster than my Ultra160 3
> drive, raid 5 10krpm array.  :(
> 
> Cory
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:55:11AM -0800, Bob Crandell wrote:
> > My Firewall where I don't care haw fast the HD is:
> > CSGate:~# hdparm -tT /dev/hda
> > 
> > /dev/hda:
> >  Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  2.86 seconds
=44.76
> > MB/sec
> >  Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  4.21 seconds =15.20
> > MB/sec
> > 
> > My file server (I'm hoping will replace our NW4.11
someday):
> > csmule:~# hdparm -tT /dev/hda
> > 
> > /dev/hda:
> >  Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  7.93 seconds =
16.14
> > MB/sec
> >  Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.18 seconds =
10.36
> > MB/sec
> > Hmm.. suspicious results: probably not enough free memory
for
> a
> > proper test.
> > /dev/hdb:
> >  Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  7.82 seconds =
16.37
> > MB/sec
> >  Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  6.65 seconds = 
9.62
> > MB/sec
> > Hmm.. suspicious results: probably not enough free memory
for
> a
> > proper test.
> > 
> > csmule:~# free
> >              total       used       free     shared   
buffers
>  
> >   cached
> > Mem:        160252     156112       4140      32752    
118264
>  
> >     8412
> > -/+ buffers/cache:      29436     130816
> > Swap:       224896       2152     222744
> > 
> > I've heard this stuff is tweak-able.  How do I?  Where do I
> > start?
> > 
> > >>> Cory Petkovsek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/2/2000
> 9:13:14
> > PM >>>
> > <snip>
> > What kind of rates do you guys get with various hardware? 
> > Controllers, Raid, IDE, mdma/udma 33/66/100...
> > 
> > Test your read speed under linux:
> > ide only:  (tests cache and disk reads, independently)
> > hdparm -tT /dev/hda
> > 
> > any drive:
> > time dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1024 count=102400
> >                         (returns minutes and seconds)
> > bc
> > 100/(minutes*60+seconds)
> > 
> > <snip>
> > Cory

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