All;
I would like to put in my two cents here:
I have dedicated my career to making the machines easier and more capable to use.
After all, most of my clients are people who could care less about the machines; they
simply need to get an answer to a complex problem or their work done. I am of the
opinionn that these peoples' motivation level has little to do with it.
Further, I think using a computer simply for the sake of using a computer is a waste
of time.
One of the reasons I love Linux so much is that it shows the best promise for letting
my users get their work done while at the same time satisfying my demand for a system
that is grounded in time-tested and proven principals for a reliable system. It also
avoids vendor lock; I am confident that no-one can force me to upgrade and that I can
modify the code to suit my company's needs.
Just to recap, my total goal is to fascilitate my co-workers ability to increase their
productivity and lower costs. Everything else is superfolous. If clustering Apple
IIe's turned out to be the best way to make that happen then that is exactly what I
will do.
-Cooper
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 08:56:41AM -0700, Tim Howe wrote:
> I should probably be clear... I am not a Linux user at all. If I was going
> to use a Distro, it would be Slackware or Debian. I am a BSD user (among
> other things) and I have no love for Red Hat, Mandrake, or any other
> Distribution that attempts to dumb down the OS so that a lazy Windows user
> can use it.
>
> </rant>
>
> OK, now it's time for my morning coffee...
>
> Tim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Justin Bengtson
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:36 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: [EUG-LUG:1611] RE: 2001, EUGLUG at the Magic Odyssey
> >
> >
> > i know this was directed at Tim, but i'll pitch my $.02 in.
> >
> > several reasons debian is better than redhat :
> > 1. apt is the poop!
> > 2. you can get the kernel source through apt easily.
> > 3. debian is still packaged with afterstep (no idea about RH)
> > 4. with debian, you can have an entirely "free" installation.
> > 5. they give you the above option during installation.
> > 6. debian isn't a corporate entity, unlike redhat.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ade Talabi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:43 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [EUG-LUG:1610] RE: 2001, EUGLUG at the Magic Odyssey
> > >
> > > Tim Howe,
> > >
> > > I do hear a lot of about how good the Debian distro, is.
> > Apart from it
> > > having an easy intsall routine,
> > > no-one has ever mentioned anything else.
> > >
> > > Is there anything else apart from that, when compared to RedHat 7.1?
> > >
> > > Tim Howe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said thusly on [17/07/01 at 19:04]:
> > >
> > > > Actually there are special cases, at least one anyway.
> > OpenBSD is
> > > free for
> > > > all and under the BSD license, but the CD layout is copywrite Theo
> > > DeRaat.
> > > > You can make your own CD with all the same stuff on it,
> > but you can't
> > > copy
> > > > one of the official CDs. The reason for this is that the CDs fund
> > > > development. This has come under fire from the Slashdot
> > crowd, but I
> > > think
> > > > they are wrong and Theo is right. The funding he has used to do
> > > development
> > > > has done wonders for the security of every free OS,
> > including commercial
> > > > versions of Linux (OpenSSH anyone?).
> > > > So, OpenBSD CDs would have to be done custom. Also,
> > doesn't Red Hat
> > > and
> > > > some others ship with commercial software for Linux? I
> > don't think
> > > that's
> > > > legal to copy. If we do Debian CDs, we should probably
> > include some
> > > install
> > > > instructions, the last version I looked at was confusing,
> > and I install
> > > > OpenBSD all the time. I still think of Slack and Debian
> > as the two
> > > "pure"
> > > > distros. ...but I digress...
> > > >
> > > > --Tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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