On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 09:50:22PM -0700, Seth Cohn wrote:
> > What is the issue with tulip?
> 
> > > Seth and Mike have an issue with the tulip --
> > something about the
> > > driver not reinitializing right on a soft
> > reboot, but I do not know
> > > the details.
> 
> We just found (at least once) that tulips don't
> probably init sometimes.  Manually unloading and
> reloading the drivers fixed it, but for a server,
> that was bad.  We just pulled it out of chezgeek,
> and replaced with a solid 3com pci card.
> 
> Might have been the card, might have been the
> chipset, I dunno. We just agreed that tulips
> suck.
> 
I think it has to do with certain cards.  I have used a few different
revisions of those LinkSys 10/100 cards.  The older ones, the Lite-On
PNIC "tulip" versions, are much better then the newer ADMTek "tulip"
versions.  There's something seriously wrong with the new ones.  They 
report a MAC address of 00:00:00:04:00:00 on OpenBSD.  Needless to say,
if you have two of these cards on the same network, they don't play
nice.  Could be that OpenBSD''s driver isn't all that great, but, I 
kind of doubt that's the root of the problem.

OTOH, some people (who use OpenBSD under heavy network load) swear by
real DEC chips, which use the same driver.

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