Thanks for both replies. I just bought a nice PCI bus video card so I'm
looking for something to use it in.

Dennis



> From: "Garl R. Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:02:52 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [EUG-LUG:2151] Re: ===}(X)<:~ )))))))))... sonic waves...)))))Re:
> Re:  Is CodeRed affecting
> 
> Though to of another idea. If you did it right, you could just get a MB with
> onboard
> video. That way you don't have to worry about finding a card. In fact
> pcpartsxpress
> has a PC Chips 810LMR that has onboard video, sound, 10/100 NIC, and 56k modem
> for
> $89. Add a AMD Duron 750 for $55 and you have the basics of a decent windows
> box......
> 
> "Dennis J. Eberl" wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Garl. I am doing an LCC coop gig out at Rosen Product Research in
>> the IT Department where they have me writing Active Server Pages.
>> 
>> My old dual 200 MHz Pentium Pro "IBM Intellistation Z Pro" box has a PCI
>> bridge chip that won't play under Windows 2K. Fortunately it sees PCI card 0
>> (my Adaptec SCSI controller, whew!!! :), but I had to swap out (1) a PCI NIC
>> and substitute an ISA 3Com NIC (no big deal) and (2) swap out a decent PCI
>> video card and live with a five buck ISA 4-bit color display card I got from
>> Stan (a very big deal since some of the software I am using won't work and
>> most of it looks like s..t squared!).
>> 
>> I would be happy with anything that lets me run Windows 2K as an ASP
>> development platform and play with software associated with getting my CCNA.
>> Of course, open source stuff like Apache and Zope, both of which I have
>> installed, run just fine ... ~:>)))   <-- Blinky stroking his chin. Could be
>> worse, the little f..k.
>> 
>> Building a W2K box frees up my second of two IBM Intellistation Z Pro boxes
>> to work as a Linux server. I also want to build a super Linux box, but
>> that's another story and right now I'm out of cash . . . Need to find at
>> least a part time digital burger flipping job for the Fall semester. Right
>> now, all I have to do is get decent _video_ running under W2K. If I could
>> find a decent ISA bus video card, that would solve the whole thing in the
>> cheapest way. Can anyone help?
>> 
>> Dennis (a.k.a., ~:>(X){)
>> 
>>> From: "Garl R. Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'t
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:49:29 -0700
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: [EUG-LUG:2140] Re: ===}(X)<:~ )))))))))... sonic waves ...)))))Re:
>>> Re:  Is CodeRed affecting
>>> 
>>> Dennis,
>>> As far as other mailorder shops, try edgemicro.com (they are in springfield
>>> but
>>> do not have a shop) and outpost.com. Both have been good for service and
>>> speed
>>> for
>>> me. As for advice on a win2k box, what do you want it to do? Just an office
>>> type
>>> box(word/excel/internet/email) or are you looking to do number crunching?
>>> Are
>>> you
>>> wainting to play games? Need more details.
>>> 
>>> Garl
>>> "Dennis J. Eberl" wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Gary and (everyone else :). I've built plenty of clones so I can do
>>>> it myself (unless you mean hand solder surface mount chips to a
>>>> Mother#$%@!ngboard :^o  uch! ). PC Parts Express seems to be getting the
>>>> most votes. Are there any mail order sources anyone can suggest. I might
>>>> just go piece-by-piece to pricewatch.com (and certainly would if this were
>>>> to be a Linux box), but I need advice on putting together a cheap but
>>>> adequate Windows 2000 box. Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis and, pal, Blinky Foobar, ~:>(X){, His Mark
>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Garl R. Grigsby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:47:41 -0700
>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Subject: [EUG-LUG:2103] Re: Is CodeRed affecting Linux or FreeBSDmachines?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would recommend either building it your self, or hitting pcpartsxpress
>>>>> in
>>>>> Springfield. They seem to be at least semi honest. I would also recommend
>>>>> going
>>>>> with an AMD chip. You will get a faster chip for less money. I have even
>>>>> been
>>>>> known
>>>>> to put machines together for people for a small fee.......
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Dennis J. Eberl" wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dennis, I need to build a box for Windows 2000 for school. (I am
>>>>>> currently
>>>>>> running it on a dual processor (200 MHz Pentium Pro x 2) IBM
>>>>>> Intellistation
>>>>>> Z Pro, but it has a PCI-to-PCI bridge chip that won't "play" under W2K .
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> so I'm using an ISA bus 4-bit video card!) Can you recommend a local
>>>>>> source
>>>>>> for 500 MHz Pentium III (or above), Motherboard, 256 to 512 MB RAM, 20 to
>>>>>> 40
>>>>>> GB HD, std 3.5" floppy, "nothing fancy" CD-ROM drive, case, and power
>>>>>> supply? I have a video card, NIC, and sound card.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dennis Eberl, a.k.a., ~:>(X){
>>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>> --
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> 
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