<runtrant>
come on, tim. you mean he had "issues"? let's hope he lives long enough to
grow up and realize how embarrassing his extended snotty rant (however
justified) was. he will cringe years from now. and, golly, you know a lot.
what a display. et tu cetera?
</runtrant>

To me, Tim, you are just OK, but, remember, bwinky wuvs u.

Dennis & birdbrainnnnnnnnnnnnn}(X)[%~


> From: "Tim Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:36:03 -0700
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [EUG-LUG:2216] RE: debian installs
> 
> yeah, he is a mountain biker and climber too.
> 
> He started his own for good reason, I have talked to people close to him and
> he was very put out emotionally over what happened with the NetBSD project.
> OpenBSD was born because he really loved the NetBSD project and hated not
> being a part of it.  He was actually one of the founders and even came up
> with the logo on the NetBSD web site.  If you read the email archives of
> what went on, you will probably not find him at fault.
> That aside, his security focus was a wakeup call to many other OS
> developers.  Today, the other BSDs and many other *nix-ish OSes are more
> secure because of that project.  Theo is a no nonsense kind of guy and that
> makes hime come off a little abrasive sometimes.  We need more people like
> him.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> Dennis J. Eberl
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:21 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [EUG-LUG:2211] RE: debian installs
>> 
>> 
>> I've forgotten which open source BSD it is, but didn't a guy
>> named vanrat
>> <grin> or vanrant break away from one of the open source BSD
>> groups and
>> start his own BSD release based on being secure by default on
>> install? Other
>> than that he's a great guy. He's into cross country
>> snowshoing at 40 below
>> (not counting wind chill), strangling grizzly bars, eating
>> raw meat, and
>> embracing a herasy (somewhat like Henry David Throw).
>> 
>> ~:>(X){
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "Patrick R. Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:57:07 -0700
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: [EUG-LUG:2186] RE: debian installs
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:37:41AM -0700, Christopher Maujean wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Free/Open/Net BSD's are secure by default....
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Erm, OpenBSD may be, but unless the others have changed
>> since the last
>>> time i installed them ( a year ago ), then they aren't
>> really any better
>>> than Debian, and come with some questionable features enabled.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> :wq!
>>> ?
>>> ^X^C
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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