On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 02:17:47PM -0700, Justin Bengtson wrote:
> sweet. maybe i'll show up this thursday. thanks!
>
I showed a someone how to create an OBSD install CD at mro's last week.
Of course, you can download the ONE FLOPPY (just to clarify, there are
actually 4 images, each their own complete install disk, just different
drivers for particular items like pcmcia network cards, certain SCSI ...)
install image from an OpenBSD mirror, and install from the network with
with ONE FLOPPY. You can use that ONE FLOPPY as a rescue disk if need
be later.
The base system is a ~22 MB tarball. It has all the basic tools (perl
but no compilers) [e]grep, cut, sort, [n]awk, sed, vi, mg (small
emacs), etc, etc. Network goodies like apache, sendmail, bind, ipf,
tcpdump. There's more install tarballs to add compilers, games,
miscellaneous documentation, and X.
Then there's ports and packages. Debian may have a good binary package
system, but the *BSD ports/packages system is an both a good source
package manager, and a good binary package manager. I've made packages
on both; it make more sense to me to concentrate on the building than
the packaging.
Since now I'm rambling, I'd like to point out that it was Theo de Raadt
who got Wietse to add "modify" to the tcp wrapper's license, and all the
software in the install tarballs is covered by "free" licenses, the most
restrictive of which is the GPL. One of OpenBSD's goals is a system
that can be used for any purpose, which would include proprietary
"value-addedness".
OpenBSD dropped IPF from it's tree because the author changed his mind
about the license, which was very vague. Shortly before (like 15 min
before) OpenBSD announced they were working on a replacement packet
filter, the IPF license was changed to clearly allow modification and
redistribution. OpenBSD is still developing pf; it will be part of the
next release (so will altq).
Aparently, this is now an issue with Dan Bernstien's software. (To
clarify: no djbware is part of the base system.) I am getting several
emails from ports-changes like the following:
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 14 14:00:29 2001
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:46:42 -0600 (MDT)
From: Camiel Dobbelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: ports
CVSROOT: /cvs
Module name: ports
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001/08/14 14:46:42
Removed files:
mail/fastforward: Makefile
mail/fastforward/files: md5
mail/fastforward/patches: patch-Makefile
mail/fastforward/pkg: DESCR PLIST
Log message:
license does not permit modification, to allow for proper
integration in OpenBSD
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I'm not sure if this has to do with the djb's new slashpackages or what.
Perhaps if I quit rambling I could learn something.
Stallman isn't the only one fighting for good licenses ...
OpenBSD was started because the NetBSD core team didn't like Theo's
comments, and blocked his "freedom of speech" by revoking his commit
access ...
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