Smack em on the forehead and shout "Penguins Rule!".
Thats how I got all my knowledge about linux....

On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 10:50:21AM -0700, larry a price wrote:
> So i just gave a a relatively short trial version of what will become my
> intro to linux class.
> 
> I gave it to Ray Cesaletti who is efn's front line support person, and
> who is getting a small but growing trickle of linux/bsd support quetions
> from non-gurus using linux.
> 
> I used tomsrtbt and cloned a copy for him before we started, covered some
> very basic stuff using the syllabus at
> http://www.efn.org/~laprice/class.html
> 
> some thoughts. the worst problems are things like shell quoting rules and
> variable interpolation also regular expressions. a simple explanation of
> regular expressions is an hour long class unto itself, at least for most
> people who aren't already clued in to what's going on. it's going to take
> me some experimentation to figure out what the best strategies are for
> inculcating an understanding of linux into people who want to get to the
> point of being personally productive with *nix
> suggestions welcome.
> 
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> On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Justin Bengtson wrote:
> 
> > i am personally of the opinion that neat, flashy stuff is really cool, but
> > what we have to focus on is EASE OF USE.  that's the problem with *nix.
> > unless you've done it before, it's a pain in the freakin' ass to get
> > everything working the way you want it.
> > 
> > i don't think people really care about the GPL and "freedom" software.  that
> > comes when later.  what we really need to do is show that *nix is easy to
> > use and setup for the novice, while being free (as in free beer)  if we want
> > more people to use *nix, we're going to have to show to the novice user that
> > *nix is fun and easy.
> > 
> > much as everyone hates novice users, i feel that is the crowd we're going to
> > have to appeal to.  if you wan't to wow sysadmins and IT staff, etc... setup
> > two networks and show them just how much better *nix is than windoze (and i
> > mean tweak them both out for performance...  you can't just tweak out a *nix
> > network and leave windoze at base install.  that just proves to anyone
> > watching that you're biased and that *nix ISN'T better...)
> > 
> > $0.02
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:38 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [EUG-LUG:2555] RE: Eugene Expo aka our next Demo Day....
> > 
> > 
> > > Let's brainstorm cool stuff (We've done it before, someone
> > > want to search the mailing list archives?)
> > > 
> > 
> >         Well, I was pretty interested in PHPGroupware, but I don't think
> > that
> > is a Linux/Unix specific thing.  We can show app after app after app, but
> > that
> > wouldn't really get any point accross except "Look, there really are Open
> > Source apps available!".
> >         I think it gets more to the heart of the matter to explain why Free
> > (as
> > in speech) software is a good thing.  Explain how far it's come (IBM,
> > $1billion,
> > etc...) and why it has a good future.  Also, how is the technology better?
> > How
> > does it compare to your home Wintel solution that every Joe who visits the
> > booth is going to have in his den?
> >         We need to think of ways to get these points accross that will fit
> > the
> > setting.  Anyone?  I think I'm spent...
> > 
> > TimH
> > 
> > ------
> > 28-Aug-2001
> > 

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