I started to writing an email that completely describes my observations
and associated opinions from working on the lab at EFN, but I would
rather not do that here.  I agree with both Larry and Seth:  lets step
back from them and see what happens.  I don't think we are welcome there
right now for whatever reason.  My biggest problem is that they don't
seem to show Larry and Jamie the respect they deserve, but I don't have
all the facts and very limited time there, so I could be way off base.
Feel free to correct me.

TimH

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> larry a price
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [EUG-LUG:2742] Re: As discussed last night at the meeting
>
>
> It isn't so much the politics as the political culture of EFN
> that causes
> the problem. There's this deeply ingrained sense of territoriality
> regarding various programs and activities within and around
> EFN that could
> be traced back quite a ways. However, a strategic withdrawal
> from efn is
> probably a good thing for the LUG at this time. I wouldn't be
> surprised if
> we are asked back at some later date.
>
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Seth Cohn wrote:
> >
> > Maybe.  With no reflection on Patrick or Larry or you, I
> have to say that
> > the EFN internal politics are a bit much.  Yes, any
> organization has them,
> > but my personal _feelings_ around dealing with the many
> powers that be at
> > EFN make me feel like EUGLUG isn't very welcome.
> >
> > Parallel and similar might be true, but that also means
> that some elements
> > are different.  EFN's way of doing things doesn't entirely
> jell with ours.
> > (Not sure right now what 'ours' is).  I think that while
> EFN's commitment to
> > 'free' access has been a great thing, and there are people
> there who are all
> > for Unix/Linux/etc/etc, the Windows crowd is a strong force
> there, and
> > fighting that isn't a battle I'm very interested in.
> (Others who feel like
> > it, go for it).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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