Yes.  I ussually get attacked when I talk like this.  Let me buy you a
beer.

TimH

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jacob Meuser
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [EUG-LUG:2746] Re: US Congress already discussing bans on
> strong crypto]
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 10:20:41AM -0700, Tim Howe wrote:
> > Wouldn't putting back doors into encryption schemes in the
> US mean that
> > we could only decrypt messages encrypted with our own crypts?  It
> > wouldn't help us decrypt anything done with encryption developed
> > elseware.  So basically they want to spy on Americans.  I feel safer
> > already....
>
> Duh!  It's very typical of lawmakers.  A tragedy happens, someone
> who wants to be popular (as in get reelected) says some garbage
> which he doesn't fully understand to feed off the ignorance and
> confusion of those he's trying to be popular with.  In the end,
> the people that are (supposedly) being protected lose liberties
> and are less safe.
>
> I'm an online merchant.  I deal with "stolen identity" crimes
> on a regular basis.  It costs me money.  Without strong crypto,
> it will only get worse.  I know I'm not alone.  I'm sure many
> of you work for companies that rely on crypto.  The internet
> is much more than a communications device; it is a signifigant
> part of the economy.
>
> Breaking crypto is not going to make it that much easier to
> find terrorists.  The thing is, most crypto acutally can be
> deciphered.  Sure it takes a lot of computation cycles, and
> one can't simply "tap the internet to see who's talking about
> about blowing something up."
>
> It's just a weak excuse for the lack of effort in intellegence
> gathering.  I mean, IPs tell a lot more about someone than what
> they might write in an email.  After all, IPs can be traced to
> actual physical locations, as in people, as in the people who
> should be under surveilence for what they have done, not for
> what they have written.
>
> If the government really wants to read someone's emails, then
> they should spend more on developing computers that are efficient
> enough to do the task, as well as actually identifying the emails
> they think may contain valuable information; not take away the
> freedom and privacy of all it's citizens.
>
> Of course, the real irony is that the US has sold crypto
> technology to MidEast countries that you and I cannot have here,
> which leads to a whole other discussion, mostly historical, and
> revolves around the Opium Wars many years ago, but like I said,
> that's a whole other discussion.  (But I'll give a hint ...
> "wars" against contraband are both *popular* and *profitable*.
> Now, who do those words appeal to, lawmakers perhaps?)
>
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