The information is available to anybody who really wants to know about
it. They can read "Applied Cryptography" as I have. They can read
"Secrets and lies: digital security in a networked world" as I have.
They can read the fscking Crypto-gram as I do. I don't think they are
interested in the facts.
I'm sure my comments were every bit as impressive as:
"You're an arrogant jackass with a short fuse who
doesn't like his pet beliefs challenged. Too bad for you. We can do
without you."
You will forgive me if I don't look to you as an authority on effective
retoric.
Can we please keep it civil?
TimH
"Dennis J. Eberl" wrote:
>
> Great idea Tim. Write your Congressman. Explain why their preoccupation with
> encryption -- especially back doors -- is a _bad_ idea and suggest some good
> ideas. That's the way to keep the pol's from "nail guns." Implying that they
> are children, impresses no one.
>
> Dennis Eberl
>
> > From: Tim Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:55:47 -0400
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [EUG-LUG:2766] Re: US Congress already discussing bans on strong
> > crypto]
> >
> > ...only outlaws will have privacy...
> >
> > I actually started a frequency count before recognizing the pattern =P
> >
> > As poorly as our Government manages to keep secrets, the back doors
> > would be in the hands of China, Russia, and anybody friendly to them in
> > no time. If you build a backdoor, it will be found. Especially if
> > everybody knows that there must be one there. Make text encryption
> > illegal without a backdoor, and people wanting privacy will simply come
> > up with a different method of secure communication.
> >
> > Crippling security with back doors is a very dangerous mistake. I'm
> > thinking politicians should be kept away from encryption the way
> > children should be kept away from nail guns.
> >
> > TimH
> >
> > Seth Cohn wrote:
> >>
> >> Dennis, I gave you the site, and told you it was
> >> recent (like in the last few days).
> >>
> >> Do the f*ing work yourself.
> >>
> >> (and yes, I'm annoyed. So far, all of your
> >> responses are continued bullshit. You just don't
> >> get it. People have tried explaining a few
> >> times, and you're just missing it.
> >>
> >> The BARN DOOR IS OPEN.
> >> THE HORSES ARE GONE.
> >> THE COWS ARE EVEN GONE.
> >>
> >> And still our 'elected' leaders continue to rant
> >> on about how important it is to tie up the door
> >> and the horses.
> >>
> >> Encryption will NEVER be stopped. They can have
> >> my PGP keys when they pry them from my cold dead
> >> fingers.
> >>
> >> My stance on this is pretty clear: I'm a
> >> cypherpunk.
> >>
> >> When encryption is outlawed,
> >> bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
> >>
> >> Come back when you can read that.
> >>
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