Thank you.

TimH

Woody wrote:
> 
> To all EUG_LUGer's --
> 
> Greetings. Having new job duties and a move have prevented me from
> attending meeting or participating in the list as frequently as last
> year. I do still lurk as I highly value and respect the persons and
> information the group holds in common.
> 
> I must express my outrage at the comments of a person who posts on this
> list who uses ad hominin attacks and ill-considered racist prejudice to
> defend a reality that is based on mass hysteria and manipulation of our
> nation's population in a time of crisis.
> 
> Calling Pat Wade a "fool" and [who can't] "even pull your fat head out
> of your smug little ass" for making a point about the valid use of
> encryption, Calling Jacob "silly" and in need of "get[ting] a grip" when
> jacob has a greater depth of understanding of how things are, calling a
> race of people, of whom one member is MAYBE responsible for this weeks
> tragedy (or who MIGHT just be the "scape goat du jour"), "some
> camel_fscker" -- this is intolerable, mean spirited, and an example of
> the the worst of the American psyche. I cannot stand by idly and let
> this pass. I have pasted a brief quote form Noam Chomski that I think
> puts some of this in perspective at least  for me.
> 
> On the Bombings
> Noam Chomsky
> 
> The terrorist attacks were major atrocities. In scale they may not reach
> the
> level of many others, for example, Clinton's bombing of the Sudan with
> no
> credible pretext, destroying half its pharmaceutical supplies and
> killing
> unknown numbers of people (no one knows, because the US blocked an
> inquiry
> at the UN and no one cares to pursue it). Not to speak of much worse
> cases,
> which easily come to mind. But that this was a horrendous crime is not
> in
> doubt. The primary victims, as usual, were working people: janitors,
> secretaries, firemen, etc. It is likely to prove to be a crushing blow
> to
> Palestinians and other poor and oppressed people. It is also likely to
> lead
> to harsh security controls, with many possible ramifications for
> undermining
> civil liberties and internal freedom.
> 
> For further understanding of other points of view:
> 
> W A T C H M E B L E E D
> /from MER/
> by L.M.Hashim (Um Ahmad: a palestinian poetess)....
> 
>  Come, my brother, enter herein - enter my life. You wanted to know. You
>         wanted to see. Come taste my strife.
>  You speak of peace so easily - not knowing my war - not feeling my
> pain.
>  Your "justice of all"  is only "justice for few" while the guilty
> remain.
>  You want us to put weapons down, while their weapons persist.
>  For you - easy talk. For you - food, family and freedom exist.
>  It might make you feel good to speak out on aggression and say that you
>         care.
>  But that does not give you license to make my decisions while I am not
>         there.
>  You set up your conferences to "educate others" on our situation.
>  Yet, you pick your own speakers to represent us while we lose our
> nation.
>  You say you are with us and convince all around you it is peace that
> you
>         seek.
>  You say you will listen. You say you will hear us, but you won't let us
>         speak.
>  And you with the peace signs, organizing your marches, please only
>         yourselves.
>  You think your good thoughts can alone change the world like your signs
>         on the shelves.
>  You must face reality You think it is simple - it simply is not.
>  Reality is watching your land taken away and your relatives shot.
>  Two fingers up does not stop a bullet and make everything right.
>  Righteous indignation does you no good if you won't see the light.
>  You ask lots of questions, but won't hear our answers about what we
> need.
>  The only thing left is for me to invite you to come watch me bleed...//
> 
> With respect for most,
> Woody

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