This seems like important info pertaining to our list and an interesting
corillary to the recently hijacked discussion. I urge everyone to stand
up to defend what "Constitutionally Guaranteed" freedoms we have left.
If you doubt the danger form either our corporations, our
representatives or our "friends" -- remember Dimitri and our recently
departed list member.

Woody

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Subject: Senate OKs FBI Net Spying
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:06:58 -0700 (PDT)
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"Under the Combating Terrorism Act 2001, prosecutors
could authorize surveillance for 48-hour periods
without a judge?s approval."
[...]
"Other portions include assessing how prepared the
National Guard is to respond to weapons of mass
destruction, handing the CIA more flexibility in
recruiting informants and improving the storage of
U.S. 'biological pathogens.'"
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[The following report from Wired News shows that
freedom is another casualty in the recent terrorist
attacks.-DC]

Senate OKs FBI Net Spying 
By Declan McCullagh 
12:55 p.m. Sep. 14, 2001 PDT 

WASHINGTON-FBI agents soon may be able to spy on
Internet users legally without a court order. 
On Thursday evening, two days after the worst
terrorist attack in U.S. history, the Senate approved
the ?Combating Terrorism Act of 2001,? which enhances
police wiretap powers and permits monitoring in more
situations. 

The measure, proposed by Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and
Dianne Feinstein (D-California), says any U.S.
attorney or state attorney general can order the
installation of the FBI?s Carnivore surveillance
system. Previously, there were stiffer restrictions on
Carnivore and other Internet surveillance techniques. 
Its bipartisan sponsors argue that such laws are
necessary to thwart terrorism. ?It is essential that
we give our law enforcement authorities every possible
tool to search out and bring to justice those
individuals who have brought such indiscriminate death
into our backyard,? Hatch said during the debate on
the Senate floor. 

Thursday?s vote comes as the nation?s capital is
reeling from the catastrophes at the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon, and politicians are vowing to
do whatever is necessary to preserve the safety of
Americans. 

This week, Sen. Judd Gregg (R-New Hampshire) called
for restrictions on privacy-protecting encryption
products, and Carnivore?s use appears on the rise. In
England, government officials have asked phone
companies and Internet providers to collect and record
all their users? communications-in case the massive
accumulation of data might yield clues about Tuesday?s
terrorist attacks. 

Under the Combating Terrorism Act, prosecutors could
authorize surveillance for 48-hour periods without a
judge?s approval. 

Warrantless surveillance appears to be limited to the
addresses of websites visited, the names and addresses
of e-mail correspondents, and so on, and is not
intended to include the contents of communications.
But the legislation would cover URLs, which include
information such as what Web pages you?re visiting and
what terms you type in when visiting search engines. 
Circumstances that don?t require court orders include
an ?immediate threat to the national security
interests of the United States, (an) immediate threat
to public health or safety or an attack on the
integrity or availability of a protected computer.? 

That covers most computer hacking offenses. 
During Thursday?s floor debate, Sen. Patrick Leahy
(D-Vermont), head of the Judiciary committee,
suggested that the bill went far beyond merely
thwarting terrorism and could endanger Americans?
privacy. He also said he had a chance to read the
Combating Terrorism Act just 30 minutes before the
floor debate began. 

?Maybe the Senate wants to just go ahead and adopt new
abilities to wiretap our citizens,? Leahy said. ?Maybe
they want to adopt new abilities to go into people?s
computers.  Maybe that will make us feel safer. Maybe.
And maybe what the terrorists have done made us a
little bit less safe.  Maybe they have increased Big
Brother in this country.? 

By voice vote, the Senate attached the Combating
Terrorism Act to an annual spending bill that funds
the Commerce, Justice and State departments for the
fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, then unanimously
approved it. Since the House has not reviewed this
version of the appropriations bill, a conference
committee will be created to work out the differences.


Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Arizona), one of the co-sponsors, said
the Combating Terrorism Act would give former FBI
Director Louis Freeh what he had lobbied for years
ago: ?These are the kinds of things that law
enforcement has asked us for. This combination is
relatively modest in comparison with the kind of
terrorist attack we have just suffered.? 

?Experts in terrorism have been telling us for a long
time and the director of the FBI has been telling us
(to make) a few changes in the law that make it easier
for our law enforcement people to do their job,? Kyl
said. 

It?s unclear what day-to-day effects the Combating
Terrorism Act would have on prosecutors and Internet
users. Some Carnivore installations apparently already
take place under emergency wiretap authority, and some
civil liberties experts say part of this measure would
give that practice stronger legal footing. 

?One of the key issues that have surrounded the use of
Carnivore is being addressed by the Senate in a
late-night session during a national emergency,? says
David Sobel, general counsel of the Electronic Privacy
Information Center. 

A source close to the Senate Judiciary committee
pointed out that the wording of the Combating
Terrorism Act is so loose -- the
no-court-order-required language covers ?routing? and
?addressing? data-that it?s unclear what its drafters
intended. The Justice Department had requested similar
legislation last year. 

?Nobody really knows what routing and addressing
information is.... If you?re putting in addressing
information and routing information, you may not just
get (From: lines of e-mail messages), you might also
get content,? the source said. 

The Combating Terrorism Act also expands the list of
criminal offenses for which traditional, court-ordered
wiretaps can be sought to explicitly include terrorism
and computer hacking. 

Other portions include assessing how prepared the
National Guard is to respond to weapons of mass
destruction, handing the CIA more flexibility in
recruiting informants and improving the storage of
U.S. ?biological pathogens.?

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