Wow, really? That's a little frightening about the soft updates. I just started using softdep on all my partitions. Is this not a good idea for a workstation? I did notice that my source tree expanded a bit faster... How recently did you experience these problems wityh soft updates? TimH > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Patrick R. Wade > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [EUG-LUG:2827] Re: debian reiserfs, xfs, ext3 bootdisk > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:23:16AM -0700, Bob Miller wrote: > > > >Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > >> ffs with softupdate is really fast and reliable, but not truly > >> journaling. > > > >Does ffs+softupdate require an fsck after a crash? > > > > Yes; the fsck is less demanding than before, however. One > problem i have > seen under ffs+softupdate is that some kinds of crash can > leave you in > a Damn Peculiar state (lots of bogus zero-byte files created, > lots of existing > files with time stamps in 2036, lots of files with wierd flags...). > > >Not having to fsck is the defining feature of a journaling > >filesystem, IMHO. > > Well, all you've really done is trade fsck for journal restore, which > is also time-consuming, but at least is more reliable than fsck. > > > One of the more interesting crash-recovery schemes i've seen is in > ErOS (http://www.eros-os.org), which periodically saves a known-good > snapshot of the running system, so that if you have a crash, instead > of rebooting from scratch, it just restores from the known-good state, > so e.g. your shell sessions pick up where you left off. > > -- > "If my son wants to be a pimp when he grows up, that's fine > with me. I > hope he's a good one and enjoys it and doesn't get caught. > I'll support > him in this. But if he wants to be a network administrator, > he's out of > the house and not part of my family." Steve Wozniak, http://www.woz.org
