APC and Belkin are good choices.  I use them both.  All Belkins have line 
conditioning built in.  Belkins go for between $100 - $200 depending on the 
battery size.  The electronics are the same in all the ones I've looked at.  
I've heard there is software to control the computer but I haven't found it 
yet.

Any APC that has SMART in the name has line conditioning.  The smallest Smart 
APC, I beleive, is the 450.  New is about $250 - $300.  I bought one the 
other day for $75.  :^)

How do you shutdown a computer after the power goes out if the monitor isn't 
pluged into the UPS?

Have a nice day.

On Tuesday 18 September 2001 01:05, you wrote:
> >We get way too many power outages out here in the boonies.  Any
> >suggestions for a UPS or place to buy same.
>
> It all depends on what you are after.  Figure out the exact power
> requirements and length of time you would like to figure out how big a UPS
> to get.  I don't remember the formula off hand but most manufacturers
> should have that info listed on their web page.
>
> Personally, I prefer APC products, but I am far from an expert (I only
> have one, but I love it (but I don't really like their new case styling)),
> my roomate has 2 MGE's and they seem to work about the same (but are much
> lower capacity).
>
> If you only need a few minutes, the lower capacity ones I believe you can
> get in the $40-$80 range.  The cost rapidly goes up from there, depending
> on your needs (and features).  My APC 650 pro (I think I paid about $250
> three years or so ago) will run my pentium 120 and a 17" Impressions
> monitor for a little under 30 minutes.  A bit more time than most people
> really need but I wanted to make sure I could finish a CD burn if one was
> in progress.
>
> Things to consider:
>
> Amount of raw power needed to run CPU, monitor, printer, etc.
>
> Amount of backup time desired.
>
> Most UPSes are really only designed to run one system.  Most will have
> multiple outlets on the back, but only two of them will be battery backed
> (unless you get one of the industrial rack mounts, but those will cost big
> bucks).  There is a wattage limit on each outlett.
>
> There are two basic types of UPS, one the system is powered by the battery
> all the time and the line constantly charges the battery the other uses
> line voltage and automatically switches to battery in case of failure.  I
> don't remember the pros/cons of each system, I did research three years
> ago when I bought mine but I've forgotten most of it.
>
> Most software supplied (which will automatically close applications and
> shut down the computer when the battery is nearing exhaustion) is normally
> only supplied for Windoze (big shock huh).  There is third party software
> available for Linux, I've never used any but you might want to check
> FreshMeat or somesuch to see what software is available for what models.
> Linux software availability for a specific model might dictate what you
> buy.
>
> The software communication with the hardware WAS a serial port connection,
> but I believe most newer UPSes have switched to USB (which might be a
> problem with Linux if your not running the latest kernel).
>
> Batteries do go bad and need to be replaced.  My APC book stated that the
> battery pack is good for about two years.  Its been three and my last
> test-to-destruction (turn off the line and time how long the battery
> lasts, the APC softare does this for me) shows my battery is still going
> strong.  Check to see if the brand you are looking at has some kind of old
> battery recycle program to help keep these things out of landfills.
>
> The higher end UPSes will have a lot of nifty features and extras (option
> packs, status LEDs etc), for example mine will automatically boost brown
> outs and clip surges.  But if you don't need a feature don't pay for it.
>
> Thats about all I can think of off hand, I hope it points you in the right
> direction.
>
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