(message forwarded from jamie, via listproc and Tim Howe) (BTW, it wasnt the 
content that caused the bounce... )

> Just to be slightly on-topic, I think there is an important message
> for all of us un Jake's mail here: Just as the Gov, big business,
> the media, and all the powers that be managed to twist our culture
> to view a plant (for chrissake!) as an evil enemy, they can also
> manage to put Open Source in the same catagory as far as society
> is concerned.  I see MANY efforts that seem to be trying to do
> just that!  GPL is "unamerican", hackers are "terrorists", free
> software is "piracy".
>       The people I work for get VERY suspicious when I tell them
> the software I'm using for this and that is free.  I'm sure I don't
> have to provide more examples.  These claims don't even have to be
> legitimate.  The first law in America that made cannabis illegal
> was passed in Texas for no other reason but to give law enforcement
> something to harrass the mexicans with.  Regan was turned against
> the plant because his science advisors told him it caused
> homosexuality.
>
> Anyway, I just woke up and felt the need to rant.  I hope this
> doesn't get the FBI knocking on my door... =/
>
>
> TimH
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 01:50:08AM -0800, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 08:31:28PM -0800, Dexter Graphic wrote:
> > > >> How much is the T1 $?
> > > >
> > > >~180/mo; 786k data/6 voice lines (needed the voice lines for a while)
> > >
> > > That's not bad. I thought it cost a lot more.
> >
> > Yeah, I was pretty stoked on the price.
> >
> > > It looks like the business is pretty much centered around marijuana.
> > > Why is it called Granite Sky? Is that your store over on 13th street?
> >
> > Actually, it's centered on local artisans.  All the products are made
> > here in Eugene.  Granite Sky ... winter in Eugene.  The place on 13th
> > used to be Shivadas Glass Gallery; last I heard it was being taken over
> > by Jerome Baker Designs (who by the way import some of their products
> > from under-developed countries, the punks!  Yes, it is a surprisingly
> > large industry, complete with Las Vegas trade shows :)
> >
> > <WOT>
> > Just curious, have you ever heard of Jack Herer's book "The Emperor Wears
> > No Clothes"?  I have a signed copy :) Did you know cannabis (marijuana is
> > a Mexican slang term from the song "La Cucaracha", if you read the book,
> > that song will have a lot more meaning) was the #1 prescribed drug in the
> > US prior to the "invention" of aspirin and penicillin.  Did you know that
> > George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew cannabis (indeed, it was law
> > in several states that landowners were REQUIRED to grow cannabis), and
> > Ben Franklin was a hemp seed smuggler?  They don't teach that in school!!
> > Had Congress listened to the AMA instead of the Treasury Department (they
> > needed something for all those agents who were hired during Prohibition
> > to do), the Middle East would mean *nothing* to us today, as we would
> > have an abundant supply of clean, hot burning oil and cellulose for all
> > our plastic needs.  "Popular Mechanics" prepared an article called "The
> > Billion Dollar Crop", which was about the industrial uses of cannabis. 
> > The Marijuana Tax Act passed shortly before press time.  The article is
> > reprinted in "The Emperor Wears No Clothes".  Interestingly, I
> > discovered that book in college, and yes, it did make me a bit cynical
> > about "The American Way".
> > </WOT>
> >
> > > The educational system is mainly just an intelligence/endurance test to
> > > see where you end up in the socio-economic pecking order. You just have
> > > to fight your way through it while trying to sustain a minimum of brain
> > > damage. Sometimes I think the people who come out on top are so scarred
> > > by the process that they've lost most of their creativity and humanity.
> > > I guess it insures that the people running the world are goal oriented
> > > and ambitious even if it means they end up narrow minded and heartless.
> >
> > Heh, my sister and her boyfriend graduated law school near the top of
> > their class.  Neither of them could comprehend OpenSource, or how it
> > could be good in any way.  "But why do work for free?", they kept asking
> > :/
> >
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