alright, fine.  buy me a new ATI Radeon and i'll switch.  otherwise, i'm
stuck with my current video card, the GeForce II.

when i bought that card, it was (almost) the best consumer product
available.  i bought it because i was doing a lot of 3d rendering and i
needed some major juice.  as an example, my old video cards would start
choking in lightwave around 10,000 polygons.  the GeForce doesn't actually
choke until @53,000 (same CPU and motherboard)

while i do not like the "un-openness" of nvidia, until i have enough money
to get another high-end video card, i'm stuck with them.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacob Meuser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [EUG-LUG:483] nVidia
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 09:53:25AM -0800, Justin Bengtson wrote:
> > 
> > the various BSD's, of which none have
> > nvidia support
> 
> What makes you say that?  It's true, nVidia is "one of the 
> bad guys", one
> of those manufacturers that's completely uncool wrt OpenSource:
> 
> >From the "License For Customer Use of NVIDIA Software" 
> (which includes
> drivers):
> 
>     2.1.2  Linux Exception.  Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of
>     Section 2.1.1 (note: Section 2.1.1 is your basic one copy 
> per user/
>     computer clause), SOFTWARE designed exclusively for the Linux
>     operating system (sic) may be copied and redistributed, 
> provided that
>     the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for
>     unzipping of compressed files).
> 
>     2.1.3  Limitations
>     No Reverse Engineering.  Customer may not reverse 
> engineer, decompile,
>     or disassemble the SOFTWARE, nor attempt in any other 
> manner to obtain
>     the source code.
> 
> So, yes, the fancy features of the nVidia cards won't work on 
> *BSD, but
> the *BSDs use XFree86, which does support nVidia cards in a 
> generic manner.
> 
> nVidia might release GNU/Linux binaries (and ONLY binaries), 
> but that does
> NOT make them OpenSource friendly.  It also means that 
> GNU/Linux does not,
> and probably never will support nVidia.  What it means is that nVidia 
> supports GNU/Linux because it doesn't want to lose market 
> share, which, 
> IMO, deserves to go to companies that DO release hardware info and/or 
> source code, or at the very least, would allow reverse engineering.
> 
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> PS Ed, Jamie, I just subscribed with the address 
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