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Ed Craig         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Taxi (I need an income)                 GNU/Linux (I can afford a Free OS)
Think this through with me, let me know your mind...    Hunter/Garcia

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Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 21:40:28 -0700 (MST)
From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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    Since your on the 
    topic of the right thing to do, shouldnt you change all your references of 
    GNU/Linux to Linux/GNU, since GNU wouldnt be much without linux?

Both parts are essential.  The GNU/Linux system wouldn't run without
Linux, and it wouldn't run without GNU.  So if we apply your standard
fairly, it is inconclusive.

We write the "GNU" first because we launched the system's development,
and our contribution to it is much larger than Linux is.  However, if
you write "Linux/GNU", that is much better than just "Linux".

     There is not GNU kernel,

There is now, but there wasn't one in the 90s.  That's why the GNU/Linux
variant of GNU is the one that caught on during that period.

     and you need to boot the linux kernel to take advantage of the 
    GNU software included with every [GNU/]linux distribution...

The reverse is also true--Linux, being just a kernel, wouldn't run
without the GNU system.  The combination of the two is what you use.
That is why the name GNU/Linux is appropriate for it.

What is most noteworthy in your message is that you are selectively
applying your arguments.  Over the years I've seen this many times.  I
think it results from the attachment that people develop to the false
picture of history spread by calling the system "Linux".  They are
sure that the kernel is more important than all the rest of the system
put together, but they have to improvise to find some reason why that
should be so.  Often the reason comes down to a double standard.

            If you would like to subscribe to our list,

Thanks, but I get too much email already.  epcraig, if I mail to the
list and it bounces, do you get those messages?  Can you send them
through?  Or should I cc you?


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