--- Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob Hudson wrote:
> 
> > I was playing with a design from oswd.org, and threw this up a few
> > days ago.  Not sure about it but have a look...
> > http://www.euglug.org/new/
> > I like the subtle lines and boxes.

it's a good design.  but the sidebar on the right feels too big (kahli
mentioned this).  also, the vote box should be above the mailing list archives.
 maybe it should stay below, tho...  the mailing list archives give the feeling
that we're an active group, especially when the page changes nearly everytime
you go there...  i would personally put all of the navigation in the header,
instead of a sidebar, but i'm sure everybody has their own thoughts on it.

> 2. It's completely devoid of graphics.  It should have *something*
>    beyond text and boxes.

no!  please, no!  it's nice to see someone designing a page with no graphics. 
the emphasis seems more on content instead of useless crap.

>    The big "euglug.org" in the upper left
>    renders very differently in Netscape 4 than in Mozilla.  How about
>    replacing that with an image, and rounding or fading the top left
>    corner above it?

well, alright, i see the point...

> 3. I don't like the way the mailing list archive is presented.  The
>    individual messages are too hard to distinguish.  Could you maybe
>    either truncate them to a single line or render them in alternating
>    colors?  A smaller font would be good, too.

don't make the fonts any smaller.  they're getting hard to read as it is. 
otherwise, i agree with kbob here.

>    out http://www.jogger-egg.com/euglug-new.html (just the color
>    scheme of the top bar.  The rest of the page is neither complete
>    nor new nor different.)

now it's starting to look like the default windows desktop...  stop this
madness now!  although i do agree that a softer color feels much better.  it
doesn't dominate the page so much.

> Perl too?

yes, please.

also, i posted a proposed EUGLUG logo to the mailing list awhile ago.  here
they are again.  no one but larry commented on them, and he wanted drastic
changes.  aside from minor changes, i am not willing to change these pictures. 
if anybody else wants to, they're more than welcome.  but to me, these are
pretty much "done".



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Justin Bengtson  @euglug=(v+ e- eug++ bsd? gnu++ s++)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"i called some kid 'b' the other day.  it's the price
you pay for living hip-hop every day of your life."
Jerry (from the Point Blank Rangers)

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