On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Kahli R. Burke wrote: </snippage subject="C#,m$ business strategy"> > > Some people are taking this very seriously, others not so and I'd put > myself into the latter camp. Personally, I like Java's platform for web > services and such, seeing as it's existed (in a non-vaporware state) for > a lot longer and there are more real life examples of it being used. > Some of the landmines have already been plotted out for the rest of us > to avoid. So anyway, Bill Gates thinks that web services will > revolutionize the way computing is done and that .NET will emerge as the > clear winner in that space. Personally, I see a lot more going on with > Java/J2EE/JSP, at least in the circles I'm a part of. > There's more to web services than Java and C#
I've been dealing with zope lately and the more I use it, the more impressed I am with it's power and versatility. It's probably closer to J2EE in intent since it's an object oriented web applications framework with integrated management and security features. I'm just starting to get a feel for how it all ties together, particularly the concept of aquisition inheritance, and the container managed persistence aspect. http://www.zope.org Another project that takes a page from one of the Java books is Webware which is a python implementation of an application server toolkit that features servlets and templating engines. It's somewhat less complicated than zope, and more straight forward from a programmers perspective, comparable to Jakarta/JSP or enhydra in the Java world. http://webware.sf.net And who could leave out PHP, the bastard-stepchild of html,shell-scripts and C. It's probably the most widely used language for database bound web applications. I've done a fair amount of work in PHP, but I'm still not fond of it. (why is that?) http://www.php.net If you want extra evil, there is of course mod_perl and Mason. And if you want to be truly outrageous there are webservers written in Common Lisp, Erlang and ML that allow you to do interesting things with data. > Or, am I just making this up? I haven't paid really close attention > over the past few months, so that's my only somewhat educated (and more > than somewhat irreverent) take on things. > Hey, this is the 21st century, if you aren't making it up you're probably obsolete, and even a vivid and pessimistic imagination would have trouble keeping up with the headlines found on 'reliable news sources' these days. http://www.efn.org/~laprice ( Community, Cooperation, Consensus http://www.opn.org ( Openness to serendipity, make mistakes http://www.efn.org/~laprice/poems ( but learn from them.(carpe fructus ludi)
