On Saturday, June 15, 2002, at 10:42 AM, Larry Price wrote: > I've been using the office imac running OS X, but mostly just as a > windowing terminal (though itunes rocks). > > Mozilla 1.0 installed just fine, and the shell works, though the default > is tcsh. In my copious spare time I plan to get the python for OS X up and > going, although it seems the choice for windowing toolkits is pretty slim, > (tk works, wxwindows doesn't, gtk doesn't..) > > There is a Carbonized Emacs available.... > > On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Dennis Eberl wrote: <snip> That's interesting Larry. You see, I've been using a Mac so long (started with a Lisa) that the desire to run any GUI other than that supplied by Apple never even occurred to me. What I really dig is being able to pop up a command line terminal and really get at stuff. I have PHP running under Apache with most of the goodies as well as MySQL, which I like to interact with from the command line to check up on what my PHP is doing. Haven't installed Python yet.
As far as editor's go, a friend has me convinced it's worth knowing vi more intimately than I do. I've never been excited by emacs, just a personal choice not to make the effort and save the energy for other things. Glad its available in some for to those who want it though. My favorite editor is BBEdit running under the Mac GUI. Does everything I need an editor to do, grep's, syntax coloring, et cetera. Do you have a read on how OS X is being accepted? I love it. Answer to my prayers and all that good stuff, but the bottom line is that the Mac has always been the machine of choice for artistic types (of which group I count my self a minor league member) who abhorred Windows and probably have nightmares over anything connected with the world of Unix. There just doesn' t seem to be much about the unixness of OS X on the Internet, at least as far as I can see. Even Apple doesn't seem to play to the interests of someone like me. I would much rather develop a database driven web site using, say PHP and MySQL, on a Mac, because I like the Mac environment, have a fortune invested in Adobe software for the Mac, and really dig being able to get at the innards by popping up a terminal or two or three. Is there some beehive of Mac OS X inerest out there I am missing or is my description pretty accurate as you know it? Dennis
