On Sun, 2002-06-23 at 08:38, Benjamin Huot wrote:
> "Sun is integrating their OpenOffice Suite with GNOME, which means all the 
>applications of OpenOffice will 
> become part of GNOME Office. The Open Office applications are currently not as 
>integrated into GNOME as the 
> applications listed above, but they often have more functionality." from gnome.org
It wouldn't be part of gnome-core anyway, I don't think.... If I'm
reading this right, they're referring to Gnome-compliancy, which means
that Gnome libs will be used (at least to some extent, to be aware of
the plethora of Gnome desktop info) as opposed to being strictly an
X-windows application as far as the GUI goes.  It might mean that the
Gnome-core packages (the bare-bones minimum stuff you need to be
"running Gnome 2.0") might even know enough to try to launch OpenOffice
for all it's various supported packages, but I think that OO will still
be an add-on.  Now, if anyone is packaging a "complete Gnome desktop"
set of packages, I'd think that *would* include OpenOffice.
gkrellm is, for instance, a gnome-compliant program that is not part of
the base Gnome package set... even though I think it should be!

> I like that Abiword is fast and does on the fly spell check and saves to xhtml, but 
>it litters the page with 
> inline CSS styles so it is not much fun to edit by hand.
I cannot get AbiWord to properly render and M$ .doc's... bummer.
But OpenOffice works for everything I do except getting a "?" characrter
every now and again instead of what I'm trying for (sometimes, something
as mundane as a quotation mark!  Anyone know why?  Do I not have my
fonts properly registered with OO or something?)

> Besides I use HTMLdoc to convert web pages into pdf files and it doesn't use CSS.
Nice, I think I will try this.  Maybe someone will hack a Gnome variant
that uses PDF for everything on the desktop just to see if Apple gets
upset about it  : )  I'd like to try living in a PDF world, anyway.


> And my sister is starting to send me Word documents.
Cool.  For the first time ever, this week a co-worker sent me a native
OpenOffice document.  Nice to know people try my advice that open source
and liberated software won't kill them from time to time  : )

> I noticed that with Star Office 5.2 that it was more stable on Windows than Linux - 
>anybody else experience 
> that? I just have Open Office on Windows so I can't really compare.
Hmmm, I guess, now that you mention it, yes.  I remember 5.2 running
better on windows than linux, if that is what you're saying.  As far as
1.0 goes, linux and windows versions seem on par, but I haven't tested
for it -- I have been using mostly the linux version, but have installed
and tried the windows binary too.  In general, I think windows gives
better performance for the same code in the foreground, but linux does a
far better job of managing all the things a Real OS should do.

Now, back to the Topic:
http://gnome.org/intro/findout.html  says:
"...The GNOME project acts as an umbrella, the major components of GNOME
are:
* The GNOME desktop: an easy to use windows-based environment for users.
* The GNOME development platform: a rich collection of tools, libraries,
and components to develop powerful applications on Unix.
* The GNOME Office: A set of office productivity applications. ..."

and http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/ has this, as well as your above
quote:
"GNOME Office is a meta-project, with the mission to coordinate
productivity applications for the GNOME Desktop. We intend to produce a
productivity suite composed of entirely free software.

The GNOME office suite is not defined by an arbitrary, fixed number of
applications. Rather, the suite is defined by our underlying
technologies, most notably the libraries these applications share and
our component architecture, Bonobo. By permitting multiple applications
in several categories, users can select the application most suited to
their needs.

....." then they list the 'old' Gnome Office products:  Gnumeric,
AbiWord, Galeon, Gimp, etc... and then below that:
"Sun is integrating their OpenOffice Suite with GNOME, which means all
the applications of OpenOffice will become part of GNOME Office. The
Open Office applications are currently not as integrated into GNOME as
the applications listed above, but they often have more functionality."

They finish up by offering a link to the Gnome Office projects
development mailing list, so check the page if you're interested!

Three cheers for Gnome!!!

   Ben B

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