Hmmm... I guess there *certainly* are a lot of uber-geeks out there
using other distro's (ie, not redhat) but I've come across a very wide
array of specialized/niche software projects, over the years that I've
been using redhat, where the main developer or someone on the core team
consistently produced binary rpms (and my preference, the source rpm)
for their project -- of the latest, greatest version.  Bleeding edge.
So I feel like I've seen plenty of hobbyists and futzers using redhat,
but then again, that's what I get for looking!  (^8

I'd like to tie-in Garl's response, which highlights a fine distinction
that I think we all need reminding of, especially when we get worked up
into a geeky craze -- that most folks just want to use their computers
to get meaningful work done.  We are the futzers who like to tinker
under the hood, on any given level... there are just plenty of low- and
high-level hacks to download and play with.  Freshmeat and sourceforge
are my primaryfodder; for some it's kernel.org, and of course there's
lots more domains... endless.  But most folks want the *fix*, in the
sense of making it work, whereas the user group's, uh, other members,
truly get their fix from the futzing.  I have to take this moment to
say, I'm so proud to be part of this group, fiesty and out-of-hand as we
are, it rocks.  Hopefully I can continue to refine my own offerings  = )

So, we have 2 RedHat'ers on the list?  (hehe, how many red-haters?)

ciao, y'all

   Ben Barrett

PS - If anyone has a business built on free software, and wants to hire
me.... please do!


On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:04:05 -0700 (PDT)
Edward Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|       Free Software is an educational conspiracy to teach us all about
| these computer thingies we're all forced to use, as opposed to the
| proprietary notion of knowledge as intellectual property. That's what
| Stallman and the Berkely Regents intended, after all, not a business
| model. 
| 
|       It turns out that you can build a business on Free Software.
| 
|       RedHat succeeded where, for instance, Caldera failed, by making
|       it
| easier for its users, even business users, to play with, rather than
| billing itself as "Linux for Business!". 
| 
|       Even if it's a local phenomenon, it worries me that nobody's
|       just
| futzing around successfully with RedHat. I'm not sure it's a good
| thing for RedHat's development if it's lost hobbyists' attention.
| 
|       Not something I'm worried about. I've never installed RedHat. 
| 
| -- 
| Ed Craig                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Taxi (I need an income)                       GNU/Linux (I can afford a Free OS)
| Think this through with me, let me know your mind...  Hunter/Garcia
| 
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