On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 05:13:27PM -0700, Ben Barrett wrote:
> The point I'm trying to get to, is that if the email does come from a
> legit service, the subscribe should work, and is a good idea if you want
> to get less of "that crap"  ( =  Obvious to most of us, I'm sure, but
> needs to be clarified for the list's archive and other innocent
> assumption-sufferers...

Then it needs to be clarified also how to determin if the mail comes
from a legit service.  Just because it says it is from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't mean you should click here and
unsubscribe.

Look in the mail headers for the first receiving header (the lowest in
the list).  This tells you where the mail originated from (sort of).  If
it came from legit.com [some_ip] then it is usually safe to unsubscribe.
For instance this was in ben's email at the bottom:

Received: from mail.nu-world.com (mail.nu-world.com [207.55.105.3])
        by sapir.efn.org (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6T0GvEe029660
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:16:57 -0700 (PDT)
        (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Received: from localhost.localdomain (bbarret1.continet.com [206.163.64.242]
        (may be forged))
        by mail.nu-world.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6T0PgcH000562
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:25:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

bbarret1.continet.com [ip] and then mail.nu-world.com, which match the
domain in the "From" line.  If you are getting junk mail from
@nu-world.com, this would be okay to try and unsubscribe.

But if it looks like this (a spam I got today):
Received: from clt74-89-126.carolina.rr.com ([24.74.89.126] helo=micronicos.co.uk)
        by uranus.petersen-arne.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))
        id 19hH1D-0008Ie-00
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:03:03 -0700
From: "Maude Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is one you do not respond to.  Why?  1) It is spam 2) From: address
does not match "Recieved: from" domain 3) "Received: from" domain is
probably a dhcp client of road runner, signified by a derivative of
'client' and numbers in the domain name.  It certainly does not have a
domain name of it's own.  4) the helo is totally off base.

Cory

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