On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 10:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The key to having a stable Gentoo system is the same as with any other
> OS-- pick your updates carefully. 

Baloney... if you run a cron job to update and install updates nightly
on say, Debian stable, you can bet 98% of the time you'll not blow up
your box.. You can't say the same thing on a Gentoo box. You have to
manually choose your updates as you've mentioned above. 

> When you get the hang of Gentoo, its true advantage-- ease of
> administration-- comes shining through.

I was a Gentoo developer for a year, so I think I got the hang of it.

> Who cares what certain companies whose name rhymes with crisco do?  The
> only company I know with that name builds overpriced,
> not-exceedingly-stable hardware with a crappy proprietary OS that's
> riddled with security problems (tftp-- please!!!).

That company was interested in having Gentoo run on 2500 workstations
and some infrastructure boxes which would have amounted to support
contracts in the hundreds of thousands. I don't think Gentoo could meet
the requirements and didn't get that contract. 

> > Perhaps if Gentoo branched their portage tree[1] then it might be a 
> > different story. Not only branch it by releases but by architecture.  
> 
> Gentoo is already branched into official release and unstable-- check
> the comments in /etc/make.conf.  Other branches, such as Gentoo-secure,
> etc., are in the works, and have been discussed extensively on the
> mailing lists.
> 
> BTW, releases for i386, sparc, and ppc exist.

Your totally missing my point. Gentoo doesn't have "branches" unless its
been a change in the last few months. What Gentoo has is a single
portage tree which holds stable/testing and ARCH ebuilds. You can't
rsync from a Gentoo mirror and only pull 1.4 release ebuilds or "stable"
only ebuilds. 

From my personal experience as the Gentoo-sparc lead developer, I've had
numerous cases where another Gentoo developer marked an ebuild stable
for sparc which wasn't. How about the many times someone screwed up and
marked something important stable when it wasn't like gcc, portage or
perl. And even drobbins committed amd64 keyworded ebuilds that borked
the whole tree. I don't call that stable. 

I agree with Bob, I think Gentoo is a great distribution for enthusiast
or home users. Heck, I run it at home.


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Jack Morgan                                     
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