On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 06:01:54PM -0800, Mike Cherba wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] look... i have some chip-info.
> From: Mike Cherba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:01:54 -0800
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> So there are really 3 ways to go about this.  
> 
> 1.) create an app which uses raw USB reads and writes to reach and
> extract the data you care about.  It also needs to be able to clear the
> flash for re-use. basiacally what the maushammer guy did.
> 
> 2.) write a driver that acts as a shim layer to make the data partition
> available to mount as normal storage.
> 
> 3.) hack the device's firmware to add support for the USB storage
> standard commands.  Could be done but would require hand coded assembly
> and careful insertion into the threadX based firmware thats already
> there.
> 
> I'd start by redoing #1 which is simple command prompt based for linux.
> Then I'd see what it takes to turn that level of functionality into #2.
> Once you can get to that point things get really interesting.  Jamie,
> where did you get your cameras?  any chance we could get together at my
> place this weekend and hack on this thing?
Mike,
        I got the camera at rite aid (near you...) I have a couple usb 
connectors, i can put them on fairly quickly if you want build your 
own...
        Yeah, lets work on it this weekend... you can come over here if 
also... either way...

I doubt we are going to be able to get in w/out either breaking the C/R, 
or a hardware hack to gain access to flash. 

I tried to compile the linux version, but it wouldnt make. I do have 
win98 lappy with the current OPS .16, and libusb 0.1.10.1

Im seriouly considering unsoldering the flash, and putting it on a usb 
flash drive... but ugh... i dunno if it will make it!

Jamie

> 
>                       -Mike
> 
> The object-oriented model makes it easy to build up programs by
> accretion. What this often means, in practice, is that it provides a
> structured way to write spaghetti code. --- Paul Graham
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 17:47 -0800, Mike Cherba wrote:
> > Jamie,
> >         The 1GB NAND Flash part probably has all the storage for the
> > videos and the Actual OS code.  the SDRAM part likely provides buffering
> > and stack/execution space.  Most likely a tight loop and no real OS, a
> > true traditional RTOS It looks like Zoran provides most of the magic as
> > a set of libraries.
> > 
> > The coach7 part seems to be obsoleted, but it and the coach8 parts are
> > MIPS 4KE based.  
> > 
> > http://www.zoran.com/COACHTM-8?var_recherche=coach+7#nogo
> > 
> > I found a datasheet for a Coach 5 which based on the same MIPS core, but
> > it doesn't bring out the JTAG pins.  They have a way to single step, but
> > thats all.  If we had access to logic analyzer I'd say boot the thing
> > with the analyzer on the FLASH bus and grab an assembly level view of
> > the code to see.
> > 
> > The guy at maushammer has some neat tools he's put together, but I
> > didn't see any actual disassembly of the firmware on his site.
> > 
> > I did grab his download app which goes through a chanllenge and response
> > routine before accessing the data.  This is a good candidate for the
> > next LUG meeting as his APP is MAC based and would require some rework
> > to compile on a linux box.  the command line stuff should be doable, but
> > it'd be nice to test it with someones MAC next week and then rewrite for
> > PC.
> > 
> >                                 -Mike
> > 
> > The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the
> > intelligent full of doubt. --- Bertrand Russell
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