I'd like to propose an additional question:  When talking about an individual or an organization that has fallen out of style, what is the appropriate grammar?

My own suggestions:
1.  He is a has-been.
 - to be used when someone isn't as popular as they once were...
2. He is a have-been.
 - to someone who specifically lost what they once had :)
    (say, losing furtunes due to stock fallout, dot-bombs, etc)

just joking, so to speak,

    Ben


On 2/16/06, Jason LaPier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think what you really want is:
"There have been numerous things."

As in "There have been numerous topics posted on this list and I don't know
why I chose to answer this one."

- Jason


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Sechrest
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Grammar question
>
>
> You are correct. And you are wrong.
>
> First: You are correct that the verb should match the number
> of the subject.
>
> Second: Most people interpret the subject to be "things" not
> "Number of"
>
> So if things is plural then have is the answer.
>
>
>
> Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>  % This list has some language lawyers.  Here's a question
> about the  % English language.
>  %
>  % Which of these is grammatically correct?
>  %    "There have been a number of things."
>  % or
>  %    "There has been a number of things."
>  %
>  % It always been my understanding that the verb should match
> the number  % of the subject.  The subject is "a number",
> which is singular, so  % the correct verb is "has been".
>  %
>  %    "There has been a letter."
>  %    "There has been a number."
>  %    "There has been a number of things."
>  %
>  % Microsoft Word (runs on Linux under Crossover Office)
> flags "has been"
>  % as an error but accepts "have been".
>  %
>  % Is Bill's own word processor wrong, or am I?
>  %


PS - BILL ARE WRONG!  SO NUMEROUSLY WRONG!  ;)
almost as wrong as... my pile of bills...


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