I think the nettop might just have enough HP to run wine and/or vmware
player to handle XP needs, if occasional :)Haven't tried that yet, mea
culpa.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Jim K 12 <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have been stuck in XP muck and mire for 2 months and have been using
> quicktime player. I will probably start with ubuntu 9.04 and if that isn't
> satisfactory try fedora next, I used Ubuntu for several years on my compaq
> laptop before the harddisk went bad. I have a failing desktop with ubuntu on
> it, also.  I will also be used for web surfing and email, (Firefox and
> Thunderbird). word processing (open  office) and may if it looks like it
> will last, will become a backup system with large hard disk to back up files
> on. And other things as needed. Including puzzle type games.
> Jim K
> Ben Barrett wrote:
>
>> Right on.  What sort of apps do you run?  Mine is not jerky, but
>> xscreensaver has been the main 3D load =/
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jim K 12 <[email protected] <mailto:
>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>    I am more concerned about the graphic display abilities based on
>>    the reviews I have read than the ability of the processor. I
>>    occasionally download short videos 2-30 minutes long. I was
>>    wondering how jerkiness of the display.
>>    Jim K
>>    Ben Barrett wrote:
>>
>>        I don't think you'll find any/many dual-core netbooks, all the
>>        ones I've seen use the 270 chip, which is hyperthreaded but
>>        single-core (don't be confused by the kernel's recognition of
>>        hyperthreading which will show cpu0 and cpu1).  I got one of
>>        those MSI Wind Net-stations (the barebones desktop, ~$150 at
>>        newegg) and it is a dandy.  Is there something in particular
>>        you need out of the graphics, which you're concerned about?  I
>>        got some type of hardware acceleration out of the box, using
>>        the latest ubuntu 9.04 I had burned and installed.  Looks
>>        good, I think I'm only driving 1280x1024 though.  I do wish it
>>        had a second video-out.  There are Atom board out there which
>>        take expansion, too :)
>>        But the MSI Wind desktop models (the *newer* one is dual-core,
>>        look carefully at the specs b/c they did make a 270-chipped
>>        model first, AFAICT) are pretty easy to setup and has been
>>        perfectly reliable (mine is in a filthy environment, but only
>>        for a few weeks so far).  Like many laptops, the fan kicks as
>>        you actually use the CPU more, and I've read that some extra
>>        thermal paste done carefully (some mods include massive
>>        heatsinks too of course) can reduce this.  The dual-core
>>        barebones model I got (cpu in place, didn't notice if it was
>>        socketed or soldered) even includes a wifi antennae.  If they
>>        only supported 64-bit and 8GB RAM, eh?  :)
>>
>>        Best of luck,
>>
>>        Ben
>>
>>        PS - I am confused about your question.  You seem to be
>>        questioning the vendors, but speak of quality control.  I
>>        bought from NewEgg, but yes, also have experience shopping
>>        with the vendors you listed, and they're all about the same,
>>        although NewEgg and others seem more "agile" which only shows
>>        up when there are problems/confusions.  If you watch the sales
>>        on dealnews or techbargains or whatever you will probably see
>>        it.  What they call the "Nettop 100" model seems to be the
>>        Atom 330 dual-core.  Looks like the regular price is now $150
>>        at newegg, I think I saw $143 on sale and the single-core
>>        earlier model is in the $120's now, on sale... with many of
>>        these places, be sure to compare the free-shipping items, if
>>        you haven't, since the shipping cost could exceed other price
>>        differences :)  Not always of course!  Hard drives are so
>>        cheap now, if you need a new drive don't forget to look at the
>>        larger sizes; the smaller ones are often more expensive
>>        lately, unless someone's dumping stock.  Some kind of secret
>>        profit against those who do not evolve their system specs
>>        accordingly when they buy more systems or parts  =/
>>
>>
>>
>>        On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jim K 12 <[email protected]
>>        <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>>
>>        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>
>>            would anybody have a nettbook with intel graphics that
>>        they could
>>           bring tonight for a quic k demo. I am thinking of getting a
>>        cheap
>>           barebones msi system with an atom 330 dual prcoessor  and  and
>>           intel 950 GMA graqphics. While double checking the graphics I
>>           found several which might be better, though quality control is
>>           probably lacking. Does anyone have experience shopping with
>>           Systemmax (TigerDirect, CompUSA, Circuit City). If so what were
>>           the results. I know in my price range the quality will be
>>        on the
>>           low side. I want  dual core, 1-2Gb ram and at least 100Gb SATA
>>           7200rpm disk. I have a CD/DVD drive. It will be a Linux box
>>        so no
>>           need for a complete system with O/S. I have seen several Intel
>>           Atom 330 systems for around $200, and that is my target. I
>>        already
>>           have mouse, keyboard, crt, etc. I will upgrade to LCD
>>        screen when
>>           I have the money.
>>           Jim K
>>           Neil Parker wrote:
>>
>>               So are we back at MrO's place this week?
>>
>>                             - Neil Parker
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