So let me ask this way: how can we (if we want to), overcome our "gag reflex" at the branding, if indeed there are good and useful tools within?
As activists of appropriate technology, if this contains any of it, we could discuss the pro's and con's of the contents, beyond the branding. Google keeps eating up such a variety of technology companies, there are volumes of discussion to be had on the synergy they are likely to achieve with what they've got. It strikes me a little bit like when CPU's started to be engineered by other CPU's, instead of by humans. When capabilities start growing that fast, everyone has reason to be a bit shifty ;) Will "they" in fact, own the desktop at such a point? ttfn, Ben On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Indeed Larry. the thought of using a "google-made" OS, fills me with a > revulsion I'd only experienced at the thought of having to use a > "Microsoft-made" OS back when I was still a mac user. Google practically > owns the internet, now they want my desktop too? I don't think so. > > -E > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Barrett <[email protected]> > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 11:04 am > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Google vaporware announcement (Doors of Expression > flavored ranting) > > Thanks for catching me up, Larry =P I've read a few things and have my > own take on it, most likely. I'm not signed up to be a Chrome OS dev or > support engineer or anything! > > For those proprietary bits, I was thinking more about the fragments of the > web which are harder to access without browser plugins, but also a little > about the kernel module level which seems like a mixed blessing (not my area > of course). It will be neat to see what sort of location-aware apps can > arise with the combination of a netbook/laptop on chromeos and a phone on > android (or possibly supporting apps for other phone/handheld platforms). > > Sounds like you're expecting content creators to make everything public > domain, which sounds dreamy but unrealistic. > As a budding content creator myself, I'm troubled about this on both > digital and analog (er, steel) fronts... > So back to tech, why so much google bashing lately? The benefits of AI > seem so tongue-in-cheek, lately; > when someone finally hands you a flying car will you go on and enjoy the > ride, or protest it? > > So I'm saying that chrome os will make all the netbooks into flying cars or > at least hoverboards, poetically, > and politically, the tools of a tech-powered democrazy [sic] will be in the > peoples' hands more than ever... > because google can deliver linux like it has never been delivered. > > So, chromeos is gift horse? And age-old paradigm. How do we really want > to deal with this (google), folks? > We sure don't have to agree, but I'm hoping we can support an array of > opinions here :) > > Cheerio, > > Ben > > PS - nobody seems to be ranting about the applied intelligence acting on > your silly little packets before they even get to their destination > anymore. Knowledge is known for example about social networking activity > before the social networks even have their data, that is, in transit. The > splinter in our eye? =P > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, larry price <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Ben Barrett<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Those are games, huh? Sorry :) >> > >> > Well I read the announcement there, and I thought this part was a little >> > silly: >> > "Obviously, this Chrome OS will be lightweight and fast just like the >> > browser itself. But also just like the browser, it will be open-sourced. >> > Think Microsoft will be open-sourcing Windows anytime soon?" >> > >> > Now this makes pertinent discussion for our group, but I think they're >> > over-playing the open source card. There are likely to be a lot of >> parts >> > which are NOT open source, maybe tucked into browser plugins or kernel >> > modules. To make the comparison question here is off-base: when will >> > google open-source their search engine algorithms???! >> > Microsoft would have too much egg on face, and even more abuse.... while >> > google would be giving away some of their top science :) >> >> Ben, you've got to catch up to the times. The client OS will be open >> source (it's actually gentoo under the hood). >> All the proprietary bits will be hidden in the cloud. Also since this >> is google, they will use proprietary algorithms to examine everything >> you look at to better provide you with... Focused, Relevant, >> Advertising you want to see. >> >> It doesn't matter if the spoon is open source if the soup is full of >> gooey chunks of proprietary content. >> >> > >> > I'm very curious to see what they come up with for a new windowing >> system. >> > X windows is even more archaic than.... well you know. >> > Also very curious to see how long until VNC can play nicely with their >> > Chromeishness, and how well it can be remotely tunneled: "Hey I've got >> > remote Chrome via SSH!" How long until we can hear that? ;) Desktop >> or >> > per-window, I'm supposing it will play nice with Android too (bookmarks >> by >> > bluetooth and call-switching from cell to google voice?). >> > >> >> completely unsubstantiated rumour has it that chromeos will be running >> a framebuffer with a specialized version of XMonad. >> _______________________________________________ >> EUGLUG mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug >> > > _______________________________________________ > > EUGLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug > > > ------------------------------ > Finding the best videos just got easier. Try the NEW > Truveo.com<http://www.truveo.com/?ncid=emlweustruv00000001> > . > > _______________________________________________ > EUGLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug > >
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