Allen brought up my concern in considering being part of this project-energy consumption. We recently received brand new in the box hardware for just this application, but due to the age of the hardware we were no able to place it. We have in the last few months been seeing newer, more efficient equipment coming in as businesses are feeling less of a squeeze and are taking on some hardware upgrades. NextStep is launching our ePower program in April. We will be placing computers in the hands of our community's most marginalized students. We are also connecting them to low or no cost Internet for the first year. It would be in our interest with this project to help move community wireless forward. If you all would like us in the discussion, we'd be happy to participate. One thing to consider, is in partnership with EugLug members we could submit grants for obtaining the hardware. (this would mean help in researching and writing the grants-our staff is totally tapped out with their present workload). No need then to create a new nonprofit. Also of note, is FreeGeek's participation in the Portland Telco project. lorraine
-----Original Message----- From: <[email protected]> Reply-To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Community wireless? > Possible. But older equipment often requires more power. If you > look at total cost of ownership (24*7) it may be cheaper to buy a > new low power device which has "just enough" capability. > -- > Allen Brown http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/ > There are very few personal problems that cannot be solved through > a suitable application of high explosives. --- Scott Adams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:27:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Community wireless? > > I h aven't followed this thread long enough to find out, but had anyone > considered Next-Step a possibility for a hardware source. It sounds like > some of the hardware that you'd need, need not be all that expensive or > terribly bleeding-edge "current" to suit your needs. Also I'd think that > such a "free" venture might pique their interests as well. > > -E > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Miller <[email protected]> > To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 11:08 am > Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Community wireless? > > > Yeah I was thinking more or less one could use a ISP to interconnect > disconnected nodes. I think the general idea with these types of > networks is if your ISP does not allow you to share bandwidth. You > don't connect this to the Internet and have a local area wireless MAN > type network. Then again getting participation at a university level > would be interesting, since there are two large universities in the > area. I wonder if one could sell the idea of a ipv6 wireless MAN test > bed? The other exciting news it 700Mhz I.E. whitespace spectrum is > going to open up some day soon. So that makes it easier to connect > nodes together. Some of the embedded wireless node equipment is > somewhat inexpensive. That makes it easy to get into linking and then > use the network via 802.11 b/g or N devices to local users. While > linking is done via 700 MHz whitespace radios and 900 MHz 802.11 > radios. We could have a lunch and learn meeting sometime next month > for anyone who is interested. > > -mmiller > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, < [email protected] > wrote: >> Some of us in Corvallis started down this path. But we bogged down >> and failed to maintain momentum. I don't think the technical details >> were the problem. We had hardware picked out. And there was a >> likely candidate software. One issue that cropped up was getting >> a high enough density of participants that we could form a net, >> rather than a bunch of disconnected nodes. We figured we could >> beam a signal close to a mile, but that wasn't always enough, >> especially when the terrain was not flat. Another issue was >> that if we were viewed as an ISP we would have legal issues >> to deal with. Of course there was also the issue of allowing >> others to connect to the net thru our home internet connection. >> Our ISPs might look askance on that. >> All of us still like the idea. Perhaps we just didn't have >> enough passion to make it happen. >> -- >> Allen Brown http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/ >> It is every man's obligation to put back into the world at least >> the equivalent of what he takes out of it. --- Albert Einstein >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nicholas Chase" < [email protected] > >> To: "Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group" < [email protected] > >> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:25:51 AM >> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Community wireless? >> I'm pretty busy with finals but don't let me stop you guys. I would >> love to > hear about what y'all come up with. I want to learn more about the > freedombox > project too, which aims to have mesh routing baked in. >> On Mar 14, 2011 10:20 AM, "Michael Miller" < [email protected] > wrote: >>> I'm interested in this as well. The problem has been getting some >>> organisation and standardization. I.E. what 802.11 mesh protocol and >>> how to do long distance links. Maybe we should have a lunch meeting >>> sometime during the week for anyone interested? >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Jackman < [email protected] > wrote: >>>> I've been trying to get a cuwin-like mesh network going, but a lack >>>> of >>>> funding has been an issue. I pushed it to my employer as a way of >>>> generating >>>> revenue, but they aren't convinced its secure. I am really excited >>>> about >>>> getting involved in a public mesh network, far more so than the 'free >>>> wifi' >>>> indexes I've seen on the internet. >>>> On Mar 14, 2011 1:38 AM, "Nicholas Chase" < [email protected] > >>>> wrote: >>>> Is there an group like personal telco (a community wifi group in >>>> portland that runs free wifi nodes) in eugene? If not, there should >>>> be. Who's with me? >>>> -- >>>> Nicholas Chase >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> EUGLUG mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
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