For the terrestrial model, at 8 inches for 500 feet, my friend and I have calculated that we need 522,000 BTUs (give or take a few thousand) to melt through.
The math used: 8" diameter craft (50.25 sq inches) 500' depth (6000 linear inches) total ice volume = (50.24*6000 or 301,440 cubic inches) total ice volume in gallons = (301,440/231 or 1,305 gallons) total weight = (8*1,305 or 10,440 lbs) Assuming a 50 degree (F) shift in temperature, this is close to 522,000 BTUs aka the amount of energy to raise 1 pound of water 1 degree (F). This is roughly 153,080 watts of power. Can someone check this math? I know it is over simplified, but hey it is a start. Now all we need is to figure out how much energy this is in terms of batteries. BTW, for the Europa craft, we figure something like 1.5 Billion BTU's assuming a 100 degree shift in temperature. This really needs further study!! Joe Latrell On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 21:11, Gary McMurtry wrote: > >In a message dated 11/2/2002 4:59:49 PM Alaskan Standard Time, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >>You could try non-rechargeable lithium. They are the highest > >>energy density batteries at the present time, which approach 3X > >>over Pb-acid motorcycle batteries. Other candidates are Ni-Cd > >>(high energy discharge rate; rechargeable), Ni-metal hydride, Li > >>ion (both are rechargeable) and silver-zinc (high energy discharge > >>rate; rechargeable). The Navy uses the latter type for torpedos. > >>They can be expensive and are hard to find. > >> > >>Probably best to get the maximum battery connection at the same > >>voltage and let them work together as one giant battery discharging. > >> > >>Gary > >> > > > >Our central question then comes down to: > > > >Would a high battery energy source be enough to provide enough heat > >to melt through 500,000 cubic inches of ice? > >If not, can/should the battery heat be supplemented with a chemical > >reaction heat via thermite/thermate/magnesium? > >-- John > > John, et al., > > Probably depends on the size of the probe and payload, but a rough > guess is batteries as we know them today won't provide enough energy > because of the tremendous amount of energy needed to melt the ice. > I'll try some calculations, but I'm pretty busy with (guess what?) > proposals at the moment. However, if batteries won't make it and we > have to rely on a chemical torch or an extension cord, remember that > we are all subject to the same laws of physics (well, maybe not > Robert, ho-ho). Therefore, expect the NASA-funded folks to be using > the same kinds of half-measures to test prototypes in the ice without > the aid of an RTG. > > Gary == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/