I know it is quite some work but it would be good, I think, if someone would 
respond (at least in German) in some detail to this article, since it is an 
influential media outlet. We will be happy to publish such a reponse on the 
Synenergene website. Please let me know in case you are interested.

Von: Rüdiger Trojok [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Mai 2017 13:38
An: [email protected]; Erich Berger
Cc: Victor de Lorenzo; Markus Schmidt; europe; biocommons; Josiah Zayner
Betreff: Re: crisper-gate at the European CDC


btw. i need to clarify further. please distinguish the GMO laws and biohazard 
regulations.

a pathogen contamination is a biohazard problem and there are reasonable laws 
in place to deal with it.

this is the problem with the odin kit, it was contaminated. On top, it violated 
the GMO laws.

this is the shitty law which doesnt make much sense and which i recommended 
politics and public to update and liberate to some degree.

but now the biohazard story is overshadowing the GMO debate. neither the 
bavarian authorities nor the media seem

to care too much about it, the bottom line ends up being sth like: diybio is 
GMO is biohazard

thats what i mean with the problematic conflation of these different topics.

Am 28.05.2017 um 13:21 schrieb Rüdiger Trojok:

hey all,

this is the most negative article i have ever seen on this topic in the last 
years. its like some people were just waiting for a call to write this 
destructive stuff. the problem is the conflation of diybio, crispr and european 
attitude/law and zayner who messed up twice - absence of quality assurance in 
production and poor PR handling of the situation after it surfaced.

(we are still waiting for our own metageomic screening results from embl, but 
so far we think it was a flawed production and lack of quality assurance.)

emancipation and education narratives surrender against safety stories and 
safety is the business of the authorities. regarding german law: federal 
authorities issues a warning on the kits with which you do gmo. but its no 
news, the law is in place since the 1990, they just pointed it out. the 
bavarians interprete the law very rigidly and dont even allow small experiments 
which are legal in berlin. that was also news to me. but overall the situation 
is as shitty as its always been, just that now authorities seem to do sth about 
it.

i guess they are motivated by some groups inside academia, who do not like it 
that a bunch of newcomers take over their public narrative. but instead of 
simply improving their outreach, they are using deepstate actions making 
authorities move against us. i believe its a mostly degenerated and socially 
unaware old academic "elite" who is responsible and who did and does a very bad 
job in dealing with society.

i think taken together with the other problems we face in the scene, this 
scandal has the potential to destroy the last 9 years of work on the topic in 
EU. citizen science has been ruined by politicians and institutions, biohacking 
by weird esoterics and bodygrinders and now diybio.... i doubt the label will 
survive this.



Am 28.05.2017 um 00:28 schrieb Marc Dusseiller:
and another one...
https://www.nzz.ch/wissenschaft/genetik-baukasten-gentechnik-gehoert-nicht-ins-kinderzimmer-ld.1296534

m

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Erich Berger 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
hello everybody,

I never saw an answer to the question of Victor - is there anything true about 
this rumor ?

best

Erich



On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 17:48 +0200, Victor de Lorenzo wrote:
> Hi Markus! I was with Paul Freemont today, who told me that Germany had 
> prohibited 5 days or so
> ago DIY activities with jail up to 2 years! Do you know anything about this? 
> Is it connected (and
> perhaps distorted) with the news you say?
>
> Victor de Lorenzo
> http://www.cnb.csic.es/~meml<http://www.cnb.csic.es/%7Ememl>
>
>
> El 11 may 2017, a las 11:04, Markus Schmidt 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> escribió:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > The crisper-gate made it into this week’s Nature news section:
> > http://www.nature.com/news/diy-gene-engineering-an-attack-on-darwinism-and-a-probe-into-nazi-sci
> > ence-1.21965?WT
> >
> > DIY memo The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) in 
> > Stockholm has called
> > on European Union member states to review their procedures for authorizing 
> > do-it-yourself gene-
> > engineering kits produced in the United States. The kits, which are 
> > intended to contain a
> > harmless strain of the common laboratory bacterium Escherichia coli, use 
> > CRISPR precision-
> > editing technologies and are targeted at citizen scientists. The move 
> > followed the discovery in
> > March by German authorities that some kits had been contaminated with 
> > pathogenic bacteria,
> > including some multidrug-resistant strains. Germany has since banned their 
> > import. The ECDC’s
> > assessment report concluded that the risk of infection to users is low.
> >
> > ECDC assesses risk of ‘do-it-yourself’ CRISPR gene engineering kit 
> > contaminated with pathogenic
> > bacteria
> > http://ecdc.europa.eu/en/press/news/_layouts/forms/News_DispForm.aspx?ID=1610&List=8db7286c-fe2d
> > -476c-9133-
> > 18ff4cb1b568&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fecdc%2Eeuropa%2Eeu%2Fen%2Fpress%2Fnews%2FPages%2FNews%2Easpx
> >
> > They conclude that infections risk is low but that all European authorties 
> > should check on their
> > legislation regarding DIYBio kits and they recommend to only buy kits from 
> > professional
> > companies who carry out proper quality assessment.
> >
> > http://ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications/_layouts/forms/Publication_DispForm.aspx?List=4f55ad51-4ae
> > d-4d32-b960-af70113dbb90&ID=1692
> >
> > Cheers, Markus
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Markus Schmidt
> > BIOFACTION KG
> > Kundmanngasse 39/12
> > 1030 Vienna, Austria
> > www.biofaction.com<http://www.biofaction.com>
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> >
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> >
> >
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