Harald Armin Massa wrote:
Michael Hudson schrieb:
"Mikael Jansson (mailing lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I just talked to a friend who attended EP '04, and he wanted me to
tell you guys that there should be a sign or such telling people
_not_ to use their computers (check e-mail, irc, whatever) during
sessions, as it's highly annoying, and is very disrespectful.
>Well, I have on occasion used my computer to take notes.
Apart from "taking notes" I also used my computer to immediately google
up information concerning the spoken words.It gave me a TOTALLY new
learning experience; I was able to connect a lot of new information with
information I allready know. So in fact it put my *attentiveness *and my
digestion of the new information to a whole new level.
And especially to be able to download "dateutil.py" WHILE Anna was
talking, installing it and firing up PyCrust to IMMEDIATELY redo the
examples was a very fascinating learning experience.
As a speaker myself I am used to people reading newspaper, eating
sweats, doing all kind of stuff during my talk. If I do care, I have to
improve my presentation to wake them up. A very effective way is making
jokes, the second time the crowd is laughing out loud anybody gets
interesseted because NOBODY can stand to be left on the outside of
laughing.
I also prefer people to use IRC or ICQ to chat than speaking, because
voices distract more than computers, esp. in a geeks event.
You have a wrong view on things here: this is not
about increasing *your personal* experience, but instead that of
*your fellow talk attendees* who get annoyed by the click-addy-clack
of your notebook keyboard (I'm not even talking about the
speakers playing the Windows or KDE anthem).
This may be hard to understand for some people, but in general
I think we strive to make EuroPython a better experience for
*everybody*, not just the geek camp and thus listen to requests
like Mikael's.
The same applies to things like delays due to beamer problems
(setting up VNC sessions to get notebooks display a talk on the
beamer), ad-hoc networks for "quick" demos, etc.: while some
people may find this thrilling, the vast majority (see the
results of the EPC polls) regards this as annoying.
BTW, I've always wondered why people at a conference use
IRC to talk to each other... isn't the whole purpose of
a conference to meet each other face to face ? ;-)
Looking forward to EPC 2005,
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