On 13/06/2011 20:40, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
We found out about this too late in the game, and at that point ComCom
refused to provide a legal translation for those terms.
So I guess you should be prepared to have quite a lot of people at your
conference wifi registration point.
ComCom will handle them, and I had already warned them :)
So, if they refuse to provide an english translation, do they expect
everybody blindly agreeing to their italian terms in a hurry, at their
in-conference desk?
To me, it somehow looks like it is their job to provide an acceptable
translation if they provide services at an international conference.
I don't think they'll need a lawyer for this, if they provide just an
acceptable translation, it would be fine for most cases, IMHO.
Probably legally it wouldn't be fine, which I guess is why they won't do
it. That and they don't have to. And yes, they will expect you to agree
their terms and conditions, you not speaking the native language is your
problem not theirs. :-)
Michael
Would it be any better if we provided a non-binding/non-legal
translation of those terms on our website? I can see if we can find a
few cycles to do that.
Well, I think if some trusted native italian speaker reads it and can
either give a translation or at least tell that there is nothing
inacceptable in it (with keeping in mind that acceptance levels might be
individually different), that would help and be better than having no
choice than either to blindly agree to some italian legalese or be cut
off from the internet for a week or having to pay big bucks for roaming.
(I'm trying to be serious while I'm writing the above paragraph, but
hilarity obviously ensues; I'll refrain from posting political comments
on our government and their understanding of technology)
:D
I've double-checked the law and it's 4 years.
Oh, "great". :-*
That internet access via wifi, is it completely open or filtered
somehow? ssh will work?
100% open. SSH will work.
OK, great.
Please notice that, for trainings and sprints, we plan to have at least
1 ethernet cable per person, and connection through ethernet is a
totally different network that does not require identification nor
registration. Plug the cable, dhcp, and there you go.
Good plan! In our sprint we might need some peer networking to clone
some hg repos or so.
I am really sorry for these troubles. Our number one goal has been to
partner with a company that we technically trusted as to build a working
wifi network. We know how amateur-made wifi networks can be at
conferences, and we do in fact trust ComCom to deliver a reliable wifi
network.
Assuming that 500 geeks use the wlan, I expect breakage somehow (just
from experience). But let's see, I'ld like to be proven wrong. :))
We cannot help much with Italian regulations, and we didn't have enough
cycles to further integrate with them and to soften edges in the
registration process (eg: sharing europython.eu registration with them,
providing a way to upload an ID as an alternative preregistration path,
etc.).
Thanks to all the organizers who do the best to have a great conference!
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