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From: "Lee Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: OT/ethics/hood ornament/name
> Steve Clunn wrote:
>
> > Lee will you put one your car so I don't feel so alone?
>
> Yes, I certainly will!
If somebody would manufacturing and sell them , donating $1 (how about all)
to a fund to buy EV parts for people wanting to do conversion then we would
have a EV generator . EV generator, Interest gen, 9/11 dynamo lets have
some names. This might help sailes also
> >> And what about doing both a solar panel and a mini wind turbine?
this goes with out saying , the cord in the gas tank is just so easy and it
makes the ornament that much better ( down the road if we can get them made
with some of he money going to a EV fund than the more expenceve ornament
would so a bigger supporter. People driving around charging there 9v
batteries with there hood ornaments and helping put EV's on the road Mr.
littleman did we forget you.)
> I like the idea of something that moves (or at least has blinking
> lights). If it's a solar powered hood ornament, then I'd include wheels
> that spin, or lights that blink, or a moving sign LCD display or
> something.
I'm liking the solar panel idea more and more .With a little car plugged
into it
> Perhaps a little EV car on the hood, whose wheels spin from the sunlight
> falling on it.
and have some red whit and blue wires coming form the panel/windmill to the
car
I have been doing some market testing(talking to people) and was talking
to gas burners about a 9/11 fad that's going around (didn't say I got this
wacky idea) were people hang electric cords out there gas tanks door to show
we have not forgot. People love it . One said to me "can you imagine what
open would think If as many people put cords on there gastanks as they do
flags on there antennas
Another Idea for the ornament, a model of the 3 firemen at the world
trade center putting up the flag but will a windmill instead
> > small computer fan... that almost sounds to big; hope we don't need
> > something that big to run a meter.
I thinking bigger now but in my dreams it still small and very arty
> The power you get from the wind is proportional to the swept area of the
> blades. Large ones deliver around 400 watts at 20 mph from an 8 foot
> diameter set of blades, which is 8 watts per square foot. At this rate,
> a 3" propeller would produce 1.5 watts. Someone may have some better
> equations or rules of thumb for such tiny wind turbines.
remember they will be in 40 to 60 mile wind
> Toy motors are likely to be less than 25% efficient, so you'd be doing
> good to get 0.4 watts of electrical power. That would easily run a
> multimeter (9v x 10ma = 0.09 watts), and is plenty for recharging 9v
> batteries or AA cells.
>
> A big problem is that the propellers spin relatively slowly. Most cheap
> motors are meant to run at high speeds, and generate very little voltage
> if spun slowly. That's why the 120v motor I tried did so much better
> than the 3v and 12v motors.
good point
> > These motors are everywhere. The electric jeeps that are for kids have
> > two nice ones, although they may be too big.
>
> Yes indeed. They would be suitable for a much larger propeller; maybe a
> foot or more in diameter. Seems overly large for a hood ornament. That
> big starts to get dangerous for pedestrians.
the car fan I just tested is "10 and didn't need any thing done to it just
hook up the wires. but it doesn't have the look I'm looking for .
> Rick wrote:
>
> > I just don't want the thing blowing off the car because it catches too
> > much air.
>
> Either a magnet mount, or a clip that reaches around the front lip of
> the hood will work. They sell them as no-hole mounts for antennas.
>
> Evan wrote:
>
> > Hi Lee, how about a "motor pod" for model aeroplanes - there
> > used to be several balsa kits for which you could buy a clip-on
> > motor/battery/propellor module, made of aerodynamic red plastic.
>
> I've never seen one, but it sounds ideal!
>
> > If you want to generate useful amounts of power, I would suggest
> > a bicycle dynamo with a high-pitch multi-blade fan.
>
> Bicycle dynamos are high-speed AC generators, and not particularly
> efficient. But they might work with a fan that can spin them fast
> enough, or a transformer to step up the voltage to something useful.
> --
> Lee A. Hart Ring the bells that still can ring
> 814 8th Ave. N. Forget your perfect offering
> Sartell, MN 56377 USA There is a crack in everything
> leeahart_at_earthlink.net That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
>
Steve Clunn and Lee Hart Inventers of the EV generator hood ornament (Mr.
littlefield if i don't see that delorian in EV Album next to my Madza truck
you will get NO credit for this WHAT SO EVER .. you'll be sooo---rry) Did i
see ford putting that plug back in ?.
would you want a ford think with cermemrative 9/11 hood ornament? who
wouldn't
Is it not a little funny that all this came about becuse of a silly black
box (no monkeys seen yet but i feel somthing)
TV ad "I love my ford think so much that I plug it in so it won't run away"
