The scam is so simple that no one on the list though of it . I did bring up
the old short out the battery then hook a small motor up to it and as the
battery recovery from the shook ,the voltage will rise and start the "Magic
Motor" turning giving the appearance of you know what. The reason for going
so fast was to load the batteries hard so as when the load was taken off the
voltage with rise ( any one with a electric car has seen this)
why is a solar panel not a Magic box .or a wind mill pulling energy form
nowhere. Is it because we understand it .  My dream would be solar panels
and windmills on every house. the grid to store and share .  This idea that
we can't be unconvinced by having to control our usage of electricity and
must be able to have as much as we want at any time shows how spoiled we are
. Back up power for the thing that "must run always" Lets start enjoying
those brown outs ect, If the horse your riding get tired then get off and
walk with him don't wipe him till he falls down dead he is you friend.
I would like to see the above printed in a news paper in referenct to the
Tilley event .

"The Pollution of the plant is only an outward reflection of an inner
psychic pollution of millions of unconscious individuals not taking
responsibility for their inner space."  Elkhart tolle in "the power of NOW"

I though I smelled monkeys but it was just crap
Steve Clunn  1sclunn-at- msn.com (come by and I'll give you a ride in my
electric car :-) and see the tellay magic on my meter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon "Sheer" Pullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: amazing! Tilley Electric Vehicle TEV) tests


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter VanDerWal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: amazing! Tilley Electric Vehicle TEV) tests
>
>
> > Typical BS and lies.  Their reports don't match independant reports.
> >
> > They claim 144.8V at the end of testing while others report 139V.
> >  144.8V would indicate that the batteries still retain most of their
> > charge.  139V indicate that the batteries were seriously OVER
> > discharged, Note this is 139V WITH NO LOAD and presumably taken at least
> > a minute or two after the load was removed, I'd bet they reversed a
> > couple cells.
>
> I think you're reading too much into 5V difference. Either way, 144 is
well
> below charge hysteresis for lead acid batteries, so the batteries weren't
> 'being charged'. In any case, 144V on a 144V nominal pack is 12V a
battery,
> which unladen means those batteries were basically bone dry, every
watt-hour
> possible had been wrung.
>
>

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