I have the Costco 6V in my home PV system and replaced them twice in as 
many years.  My home PV system gets very mild use. I would definitely stay 
away from them in a EV applications.  In addition the cell caps they use 
have a tendency spread more acid spray than other batteries.

Todd Hunter

At 02:25 PM 9/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Vince Barma wrote:
> >
> > * LP8.2: HTML/Attachments detected, removed from message  *
>
>Vince, can you set your software to sent plain text so everyone can see
>your messages? Thanks!
>
>I believe your question was about the difference between Costco
>"Kirkland" (Johnson Control?) 12v batteries and Trojan 12 volt deep
>cycle (SCS225 or 27TM? families).
>
>To a first approximation, you get what you pay for. The Costco battery
>is cheaper, so you can expect it to perform worse. It would help if you
>can find out exactly what this battery is: it's specs, intended use,
>life, capacity, etc.
>
>Next point: As a rule, 12v flooded batteries do not work very well in
>EVs. They are generally not true deep-cycle batteries, and are designed
>for lower currents and shorter life expectancies. You will only
>aggravate matters if you use too few of them in an EV and expect high
>speeds and fast accellerations.
>
>For example, I took a look at a Geo Metro with ten Trojan SCS225
>batteries. The owner had driven it at freeway speeds, climbed hills at
>500 amps, run them dead a few times, etc. and the batteries were dying
>in less than a year with under 5000 miles.
>
>Even if he had driven like a little old lady and babied these batteries,
>I doubt they would last over 2 years or even reach 10,000 miles.
>
>I suspect that the Costco batteries would be a lot like the SCS225.
>
>If you stayed with Trojan, the 27TMH may be about the best of their
>offerings in this size range. I think John Bryan got pretty good life
>out of a set of them (perhaps he'll respond).
>
>If it were me, I'd either use 8v floodeds to keep cost low, or go to a
>premium 12v AGM battery if cost is less important. The 8v batteries have
>at least twice the life, and you can probably get 12 of them in a Metro
>(96v pack). For AGMs, the Optima, Hawker, or Concorde batteries are
>possible choices.
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