Hello Andrew,

Sounds like you have a "192v" (16 x 12v batteries) with Rudman regs. That
size pack should provide a max of 8kwh capacity and much more that 9 miles
range. Sounds like the pack is either old and needs replacement or you have
1-2 bad batteries which are killing your range. You need to check each
battery and any <10.5v either has a shorted cell or is basically dead.

Best to setup each battery with some extra wires (fused on the positive
terminal) back to a junction so that you can remotely check each battery (an
if necessary provide separate/individual charging). 

here's examples:
Yellow Tops a Sparrow: 
http://www.los-gatos.ca.us/davidbu/sparrow/vs_wires2.jpg
Yellow Tops in a Honda Civic conversion:
http://evhonda.freeservers.com/images/battery_filter_and_junction_box.jpg

I'm sure there are other pictures of examples - maybe other people can
provide those links.

BR,
Ed Thorpe

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Oxner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MR2 conversion/YT's not working well


I'm an experienced electronics tech, but new to EVs. 
Recently I bought a 1991 MR2 conversion with a 196V
system.  The batteries are Optima YTs of 1999 vintage.
 My controller is a Griz and the motor is an Advanced
DC.  The charger is a Manzanita with a home-brew
regulator box set to bypass current around any battery
showing more than 14.8 volts.  The previous owner
claimed a 45 mile max range, I'd be happy if it could
make 25 miles.  Sadly, the batteries in their present
state are pretty much dead at 9 miles.  My experience
has been that the car cannot even get me to work (~10
miles freeway 750' higher elevation than my home). 
This is NOT what I had in mind, nor even plausibly
related to what the previous owner claimed.  The pack
is only capable of providing 20-22 Ah or so before
getting really soft.  At that time, if I put a 2A load
on the bank, three of them dip to about 5-8V while the
others are around 10.5V.  In a 5A static load test,
similar voltages appear at the 4.5 hour mark.  Is this
typical aging YT behavior, or is my pack limp for some
other (possibly correctable) reason?  If it really is
dying this soon, what would I have to do to get the
range I want out of a longer lived battery technology
(Evercel, etc)?  My whole point in driving an EV is to
be less polluting.  Generating a pallet of dead
batteries every 3 years is out of the question!  BTW,
there are batteries in the tunnel, so sealed
technology is a requirement.  At least conventional LA
is out. 

Thanks,

Andrew                        

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