EV Digest 5613
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: water powered EV - JK. hydropower
by Danny Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
2) Re: Jim Husted did something to my motor
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) RE: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
by "Shawn M. Waggoner \(EVDL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4) RE: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
by "Shawn M. Waggoner \(EVDL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
5) RE: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
by Jim Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
6) RE: e-volks
by "David Sherritze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7) Dump Charger
by "David Sherritze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
8) Cent-A-Meter remote charge indicator
by "David Sharpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
9) Re: Cent-A-Meter remote charge indicator
by "Death to All Spammers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10) Re: Cent-A-Meter remote charge indicator
by "Death to All Spammers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
11) RE: gang charger
by Mike Willmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12) Re: Vectrix
by "Death to All Spammers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
13) Re: e-volks
by "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
14) Bad b
by Danny Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
15) RE: Cent-A-Meter remote charge indicator
by "David Sharpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
16) Re: Fw: air conditioning for ev's
by Danny Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
17) Re: gang charger
by "Stefan T. Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
18) RE: Bad b
by "David Sharpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
19) yet more Re: air conditioning for ev's
by Suhas Malghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20) Re: [from the RAV4-EVlist] Researchers say nano capacitors could
displacebatteries
by "EVRIDER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
21) Raptor Controller for sale
by "David Sherritze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
22) Raptor Controller for sale
by "David Sherritze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
23) Re: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
24) Hummmm Look at this. Anyone "seen" one?
by "EVRIDER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
25) New Bikey NEB
by nikki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
26) Re: air conditioning for ev's
by Jim Walls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Lots of alternative energy sites have water turbines or submersible prop
generators:
http://www.absak.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/33_89
But a turbine requires head pressure, that is, you need to take water
from a higher elevation than the device is located, run through a pipe
and then the device, and discharge it into open air at the lower point.
In truth a simple paddlewheel won't produce a lot of power. The prop
design should work in creek like that, but it's not going to produce
much power unless it's pretty raging or the prop is huge.
I dunno though, maybe a paddlewheel could be scaled pretty high at
modest cost so it would produce a lot of torque. You'd of course run
this through a gearbox to get a more favorable rpm for an electric
generator.
Danny
Lawrence Rhodes wrote:
Hydropower is much more powerful than solar or wind. Give it a shot. My
uncles did it on their property. Lawrence Rhodes.....
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:57 AM
Subject: water powered EV - JK. hydropower
Its not what you think; This would be hydro powered recharging
My recharge outlet at work will be taken away, because the building it is
powerred from is getting demolished. So, I thought of ways to recharge
fully off 115 VAC without purchasing another charger or building a Badboy.
Then, one day, I was eating dinner next to the creek and thought of
putting
a water wheel generator in it to recharge my EV. Rancocas Creek which
runs
into the Delaware River of NJ, PA, DE runs thru our chemical plant.
(that's why the plant is here).
What would you think of the practicality of mounting a generator connected
to paddle wheel on a float that I can anchor to the shore line. How could
I figure what amount of energy is available in the flowing creek, if
enough
<>to get me 5 kwhr or more in 7 hours of work day.
depth?, average flow speed during dry and raining days?
If possible, then I would truly have a water powered car for half of my
commute :)
Ben
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Lawrence, The torque steer problem was a myth invented by and perpetuated by
mr. rudman. I found the problem over a year ago and told him about it. I had
tried unsuccessfully to strap the suspension down to prevent lift in the
front end. When the front end lifts and the suspension drops the toe in goes
to toe out in the amount of a whopping 1-1/4". It is impossible to go
straight. I believe there are several contributing factors to this. Number
one is that the front end never lifted the suspension much with a front
wheel drive and rabbit four cylinder. Number two, we went to extremely tall
wheels. We went from 13" to 17" rims. A little toe becomes a lot more
further out as the tie rods from the rack drop and pull the spindles inward
at the rear of the axle line producing the toe out condition. I have a new
solution that I believe will work. I am installing an aluminum channel piece
bolted to the frame under the axle line. The bottom of the A arms touch this
via a rubber pad and will not be allowed to drop. The vehicle will not be
able to lift in the front now because it will be lifting the weight of the
entire vehicle, not just the suspension travel. This will plant the front
tires better for increased traction. Just my theory. The proof is in the
time slip, not the keyboard :-)
Roderick
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From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Jim Husted did something to my motor
It's amazing with all that weight and they just keep spinning. I watched
the Wrightspeed X1 take off with amazing performance. I'm sure their pack
has about the same energy potential but in a vehicle half the weight. I
hope you guys get GP saddled up proper. All that potential has got to
have
some place to put the hp rather than spinnin it. Maybe the mass is
causing
the wheel spin & torque steer. If a lighter pack was used like hawkers &
a
little experimentation with weight distribution you might do better. I'll
bet some Hawkers like Wayland has would lower the weight and still pump
out
the amps. You might grab better and have the ability to take off. Seems
like a physics problem to me. Too much power and too much weight. But
what
do I know. LR.....
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From: "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Jim Husted did something to my motor
Yes Lawrence
Gone Postal has a Curbwatt medalion on the back motor cover.
Put out the amps???? the 40 batteries are good(maybe were good) for 2000
amps a string. Making amps is NOT GPs weak point.
Right now it's keep hard to keep it off the telephone poles and on the
track
pointed were you want to go. The last couple of times Rod drove it hard,
he
torque steared off the track.
This was a smoking tire kind of torque stear... if they are spinning
hard...
Well it's kinda hard to stear.
I hear the clutch is toast on the front drive after Jim has his way with
the
front motor....
Oh wonderfull succes.. fix one thing break another....
Madman
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From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: Jim Husted did something to my motor
> Is Gone Postal a Curbwatt? I just got done working on one and they are
all
> aluminium. You'd think they wouldn't weigh much more than the Rabbit
that
> they used all the suspension parts from. Sure can carry a lot of
weight.
> It was set up for at least 96v of golfcart batteries. I wonder what
GP'd
do
> with a lighter pack that could put out the amps. I'd be one nuts
machine.
> Already is. LR>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> > Yo Dude!!
> > Wayland's Ricer Tin Can don't weigh 5000 lbs !!!
> >
> > The Gone Postal with 40 40 lbs batteries....needs all the help it can
get,
> > and 5 gears and series parallel are all we can find without buying a
> couple
> > of Ford 9 inch rear ends.
> >
> > So... Direct drive is not a good idea, We need the fronts to get us
> moving..
> > then we let the S/P rears suck some watts, and warp 1 comes by in a
hurry.
> >
> > God Rod don't break it!!! please!
> >
> > Madman
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: Jim Husted did something to my motor
> >
> >
> > > Maybe the answer is direct drive. I don't see Wayland burnin up no
> > > clutches.......LR..........
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:49 PM
> > > Subject: Jim Husted did something to my motor
> > >
> > >
> > > > I recently had Jim Husted do a com for me and an experimental
brush
> > > > rigging set up. I have only had the motor back in "Gone Postal"
for
a
> > very
> > > > short time. It hasn't even been to the track yet but today I had
to
> take
> > > the
> > > > motor back out. The only person I can think of to blame for my
> troubles
> > is
> > > > Jim Husted. Everything was fine until he worked on my motor.
> > > > We are running a Centerforce clutch and pressure plate with a
> Corrado
> > > G60
> > > > flywheel. We have never had any trouble with it whatsoever. We
have
> > raced
> > > > it, we have run front drive only and rear drive only. We have
> > > > even
> > > submitted
> > > > it to the Madman's foot.and still no problems. Now when I nail it
up
> to
> > > 1800
> > > > amps on the front motor the clutch whirs right up without much
> > > acceleration.
> > > > We pulled the motor and sure enough, the smell was not the
> > > > brushes
but
> > the
> > > > clutch material burning. We checked and the clutch linkage is
fine.
> Yep,
> > > > it's all Jim's fault for giving me too much torque :-) We have
found
a
> > > > solution. Now to get the big bucks for a full on racing pressure
plate
> > and
> > > a
> > > > three puck disc from Clutch Net, www.clutchnet.com
> > > >
> > > > Roderick Wilde
> > > > "Suck Amps EV Racing"
> > > > www.suckamps.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Dude, I think somehow your prayers just got answered...not sure how, but
take a look: http://www.dragtimes.com/
There it is on the front page, Joule Injected!!!
One very happy,
Shawn Wagoner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Husted
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
Hey all
You know, I was so hoping, as I'm sure John was, for a real Horton and the
Who's moment, with all the Whos casting their "we are here" chant. As of
this writing Matt received 80 votes. Now you all know me, I steer clear of
flame wars, I try to remain middle course and as un-biased as I can. I
found it surprising that a lot of people I met in Joliet associated me with
racing. Actually I'm running 60% daily to 40% race stuff, actually 90%
forklift 6% and 4%. So the majority of my stuff moves very slow to average
speeds. I'm also very open that I'm not even an EV'er yet, but I do get to
live vicariously through you guys. So hopefully without pissing anyone off,
I wanted to share some thoughts on how I see stuff, that is if anyone's even
reading this far 8^ P
I've had the pleasure of being an EVDL member for a year now and feel very
much a member of the community here. I wanted to bring to attention that
sometimes, it seems to me, the door doesn't always swing back. What I mean
is, it seems like a lot of racers are there when the call is made to show
for a green day or like this opening of WKTEC stuff and are always active
community wise and then low support is sometimes shown back when they may
need or want it.
I'm really not one to "chaulkboard" but there are those who do, either way
it's human nature that if a door only swings one way the door usually stops
swinging. It's also human nature to want a pat on the back or maybe EVen 30
days of fame once in a while 8^ ) One could say that it's a stupid vote, or
they aren't into racing, and yes I know it's a holiday weekend, but for what
ever reason, support was not given.
I like to think of the race guys as God's green solders. Rod is kind of
like John the Baptist, eating locusts and hunny, screaming in the wilderness
for all to repent, lmao. Wayland, eat's, breathes, and sleeps EV. Matt and
I talk often, I consider him a friend and I know how hard he preaches the EV
gosspel. Heck he just wrote a program and tossed it out to you guys so he
does a lot for the community. Now I doubt Matt's heart crushed or anything
but as a friend I wanted him to win.
I guess I just wanted to say that sometimes it is the little things that
count.
I guess the only thing left to say is...
YIP
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric
For those to young to know who Horton and the Who's are, kindly disregard
this posting 8^ P
peace!
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Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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OK, as quickly as it came...it's gone again...
Honestly, Joule Injected was there for a few minutes! Next month!
Not so very happy,
Shawn
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn M. Waggoner (EVDL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:07 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
Dude, I think somehow your prayers just got answered...not sure how, but
take a look: http://www.dragtimes.com/
There it is on the front page, Joule Injected!!!
One very happy,
Shawn Wagoner
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Husted
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
Hey all
You know, I was so hoping, as I'm sure John was, for a real Horton and the
Who's moment, with all the Whos casting their "we are here" chant. As of
this writing Matt received 80 votes. Now you all know me, I steer clear of
flame wars, I try to remain middle course and as un-biased as I can. I
found it surprising that a lot of people I met in Joliet associated me with
racing. Actually I'm running 60% daily to 40% race stuff, actually 90%
forklift 6% and 4%. So the majority of my stuff moves very slow to average
speeds. I'm also very open that I'm not even an EV'er yet, but I do get to
live vicariously through you guys. So hopefully without pissing anyone off,
I wanted to share some thoughts on how I see stuff, that is if anyone's even
reading this far 8^ P
I've had the pleasure of being an EVDL member for a year now and feel very
much a member of the community here. I wanted to bring to attention that
sometimes, it seems to me, the door doesn't always swing back. What I mean
is, it seems like a lot of racers are there when the call is made to show
for a green day or like this opening of WKTEC stuff and are always active
community wise and then low support is sometimes shown back when they may
need or want it.
I'm really not one to "chaulkboard" but there are those who do, either way
it's human nature that if a door only swings one way the door usually stops
swinging. It's also human nature to want a pat on the back or maybe EVen 30
days of fame once in a while 8^ ) One could say that it's a stupid vote, or
they aren't into racing, and yes I know it's a holiday weekend, but for what
ever reason, support was not given.
I like to think of the race guys as God's green solders. Rod is kind of
like John the Baptist, eating locusts and hunny, screaming in the wilderness
for all to repent, lmao. Wayland, eat's, breathes, and sleeps EV. Matt and
I talk often, I consider him a friend and I know how hard he preaches the EV
gosspel. Heck he just wrote a program and tossed it out to you guys so he
does a lot for the community. Now I doubt Matt's heart crushed or anything
but as a friend I wanted him to win.
I guess I just wanted to say that sometimes it is the little things that
count.
I guess the only thing left to say is...
YIP
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric
For those to young to know who Horton and the Who's are, kindly disregard
this posting 8^ P
peace!
---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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Hey Shawn
I saw it to. I went there cause I kew it was time and Matts car was there.
Cya
Jim
We almost willed it there hehe
"Shawn M. Waggoner (EVDL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK, as quickly as it came...it's gone again...
Honestly, Joule Injected was there for a few minutes! Next month!
Not so very happy,
Shawn
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn M. Waggoner (EVDL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:07 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
Dude, I think somehow your prayers just got answered...not sure how, but
take a look: http://www.dragtimes.com/
There it is on the front page, Joule Injected!!!
One very happy,
Shawn Wagoner
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Husted
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
Hey all
You know, I was so hoping, as I'm sure John was, for a real Horton and the
Who's moment, with all the Whos casting their "we are here" chant. As of
this writing Matt received 80 votes. Now you all know me, I steer clear of
flame wars, I try to remain middle course and as un-biased as I can. I
found it surprising that a lot of people I met in Joliet associated me with
racing. Actually I'm running 60% daily to 40% race stuff, actually 90%
forklift 6% and 4%. So the majority of my stuff moves very slow to average
speeds. I'm also very open that I'm not even an EV'er yet, but I do get to
live vicariously through you guys. So hopefully without pissing anyone off,
I wanted to share some thoughts on how I see stuff, that is if anyone's even
reading this far 8^ P
I've had the pleasure of being an EVDL member for a year now and feel very
much a member of the community here. I wanted to bring to attention that
sometimes, it seems to me, the door doesn't always swing back. What I mean
is, it seems like a lot of racers are there when the call is made to show
for a green day or like this opening of WKTEC stuff and are always active
community wise and then low support is sometimes shown back when they may
need or want it.
I'm really not one to "chaulkboard" but there are those who do, either way
it's human nature that if a door only swings one way the door usually stops
swinging. It's also human nature to want a pat on the back or maybe EVen 30
days of fame once in a while 8^ ) One could say that it's a stupid vote, or
they aren't into racing, and yes I know it's a holiday weekend, but for what
ever reason, support was not given.
I like to think of the race guys as God's green solders. Rod is kind of
like John the Baptist, eating locusts and hunny, screaming in the wilderness
for all to repent, lmao. Wayland, eat's, breathes, and sleeps EV. Matt and
I talk often, I consider him a friend and I know how hard he preaches the EV
gosspel. Heck he just wrote a program and tossed it out to you guys so he
does a lot for the community. Now I doubt Matt's heart crushed or anything
but as a friend I wanted him to win.
I guess I just wanted to say that sometimes it is the little things that
count.
I guess the only thing left to say is...
YIP
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric
For those to young to know who Horton and the Who's are, kindly disregard
this posting 8^ P
peace!
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I have what I believe is an original Myers Manx on a 59 VW pan with 1965
front end and transaxle. The engine is a 1600 Dual port which has long
since seen better days. I intend to pull it and remove the flywheel and
clutch if it is salvageable. Will probably lighten the flywheel in a future
project. I can salvage the rest of the engine thru a local VW club. It was
originally a Blue metal flake and has been painted several times. It is
currently a medium Pink, which my 15 year old daughter is very insistent
that it stays Pink when repainted. My 13 year old son wants Yellow or Orange
(Electric colors).
I want to keep the vehicle simple and light for performance and range around
town. Must have seating for 4. This might make battery placement a
challenge. Town is about 6 miles end to end and my work is about 8-9 miles
one way. So I should be able to go any where locally in it. It is about 8
miles to the beach we frequent. Speed limits on local roads are most 35 and
45 MPH.
For now I just want to get it running for around town, I can worry about the
cosmetics later. Better to have an ugly running vehicle than a pretty
non-running one. And we all know no project is ever finished, always some
other improvement
Hopefully I have realistic expectations.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: e-volks
David,
What Dune Buggy body have you selected for your project?
- Mike B.
DEVC
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Has anyone used or built a dump charger.
I have heard of EV racers doing this.
I have a 72 volt EV that I drive to work. When I get home I have used
about 30% of power (70% DoD). However from here on, the rate of
discharge goes down exponentially.
I have been thinking about a dump charger that would build up charge
all day and that would recharge the EV quickly when I get home. This
would allow me to run my evening errands and then let both the EV and
dump charger charge overnight.
But I have no idea how to do this or if it is even probable.
Ideas?
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I use the above device to tell me how the battery charging is advancing. It
is an Australian designed device. It uses radio to deliver basically one
channel of instantaneous data but cannot give time based info. So no kWhrs,
only kWs. You can use it for other AC applilications too. It works up to
30m from the transmitter. View at www.centameter.com.au They may be
available in the US. David Sharpe
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> I use the above device to tell me how the battery charging is
advancing. It
> is an Australian designed device. It uses radio to deliver basically one
> channel of instantaneous data but cannot give time based info. So no
kWhrs,
> only kWs. You can use it for other AC applilications too. It works
up to
> 30m from the transmitter. View at www.centameter.com.au They may be
> available in the US. David Sharpe
>
The US site is cenergies.com - lists for $180.
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> I use the above device to tell me how the battery charging is
advancing. It
> is an Australian designed device. It uses radio to deliver basically one
> channel of instantaneous data but cannot give time based info. So no
kWhrs,
> only kWs. You can use it for other AC applilications too. It works
up to
> 30m from the transmitter. View at www.centameter.com.au They may be
> available in the US. David Sharpe
>
Here's a cummulative kwh-meter for less, but then you don't get any
instantaneous data:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170003127395
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This might be a silly question but can you actually connect these 10 port
chargers in series, which is what you would be doing if
you hooked one to each battery in a series connected string. Are all the ports
isolated from each other? If not this won't work
unless you disconnect all the batteries before slapping the charger on.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Matthew Milliron
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: gang charger
>
>
>
>
> I have made the decision to make a gang-charger. Walmart had
> Schumaker 12/8/2 Speed chargers for less than $40.
> I plan to make something like this:
> http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=DEL-021-0134
>
> These are isolated and have a 12/8/2 amp charge profile with
> anti-sulfation settings.
> http://www.batterychargers.com/itemlist.cfm?cid=2
>
> I plan to take the 3phase out of the car and use these as an
> opportunity charger.
>
> Wadda ya think?
>
>
>
> Matt Milliron
> http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/702
> My daughter named it, "Pikachu". It's yellow and black,
> electric and contains Japanese parts, so I went with it.
>
>
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> > 100 kph 100 km range according to flyer. No price yet. All electric.
> >
>
> I was asked today if I would pay 10 grand.
>
Is there a limit to how long they can keep our collective breaths
baited before we die or loose interest? So far, it's >5yrs...I'll just
keep waiting.
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Ain't happening in a Dune Buggy. Bad aerodynamics. If you took it slow
maybe. LR>..........
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Sherritze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: e-volks
> Are you running a controller or the micro-switch set up?
>
> How far discharged (DoD) are you at the 25 mile range?
>
> What type of vehicle are you using the kit in?
>
> I am hoping to hit 45 to 50 MPH with range of 30 to 35 miles with no more
> than 50 % Depth of Discharge using Lead Acid Batteries in Fiber glass dune
> buggy on a Volts-wagon frame
>
> Thanks
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of jmygann
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:30 PM
> To: Jack Murray
> Subject: Re: e-volks
>
>
>
> At 48 volts ... 45mph top speed
>
> Range up to 25 miles
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > what kind of performance do you get with the motor?
> >
> > jmygann wrote:
> > > I have an e-volks kit ..... If I can be of any assistance let
> me know
> > >
> > > Jimmy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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This guy is actually patenting the "bad boy" charger as a new
invention. Guess you all are gonna owe royalties:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/miami-dade/cities_neighborhoods/pinecrest/14731378.htm
Danny
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The centometer transmits the data by radio. This ebay one appears to be
fixed.
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Death to All Spammers
Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2006 3:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Cent-A-Meter remote charge indicator
> I use the above device to tell me how the battery charging is
advancing. It
> is an Australian designed device. It uses radio to deliver basically one
> channel of instantaneous data but cannot give time based info. So no
kWhrs,
> only kWs. You can use it for other AC applilications too. It works
up to
> 30m from the transmitter. View at www.centameter.com.au They may be
> available in the US. David Sharpe
>
Here's a cummulative kwh-meter for less, but then you don't get any
instantaneous data:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170003127395
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10 is not even close.
http://www.melcor.com/maa150sp.html
A similar device, moves 44W, very well specified for a real-world
application. Very well designed heat/cold sinks.
OK, so it's 100F outside and you want it to be 72F inside. Let's say
that's going to be 10,000 BTU, although that seems to be a conservative
estimate. I suspect 10k BTU that may be somewhat anemic, 20k BTU might
be more realistic.
At that temp differential, that devices moves 115BTU. You would need 87
devices for even the 10,000 BTU case. This would take 3.828 KW! A
10,000 BTU window unit A/C only pulls about 1 KW. OK, I don't know what
temp differential that BTU rating is for with the window unit, but be
sure it's way different.
Water cooling will be a bit better than the Melcor specs, but it's not
going to fundamentally change the situation. In fact water-cooled
heatsinks are already a given because it's completely impractical to
route such a huge volume of air across 87 big sinks under the dash. The
other part of the picture is just how much water flow would be required
to remove over 3KW from the Peltiers, and the radiator would have to be
very large to bring water heated by 3KW back down to near ambient.
Danny
Jack Murray wrote:
they are inefficient that is for sure, certainly if AC system is
already there drive it with aux motor. but how about doing the TEC
water cooling, you can "precharge" it by dumping in a bucket of ice in
the water before you leave. better perhaps one can fashion the
limited cold air directed to the driver, then it will FEEL a lot colder,
and the entire car interior space doesn't need to be cooled down.
in fact, as you may know, just putting cold on the back of your neck
makes a significant effect in how warm you feel.
Jack
Michaela Merz wrote:
Just wanted to chime in again: I tried a 2000 BTU compressor unit and
the
cooling was almost not noticeable. So - you're going to need a lot of
TECs
to get any cooling effect at all.
Michaela
Another source for modules (surplus)
http://www.mpja.com/listitems.asp?dept=60 I am going to end up making a
custom waterblock (or salvage one off of something else) and mount
the TEC
and the cold side heatsinks up in the stock airbox. Then run the hot
side
coolent lines out the holes where the AC lines ran and hook it up to a
small
pump, radiator and fan. Not exactly sure on size but hopeing that the
stock
heater core will work else I have the factory radiator still and can
get
it
involved as well.
Later,
Wire
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Mike Willmon wrote:
This might be a silly question but can you actually connect these 10 port
chargers in series, which is what you would be doing if
you hooked one to each battery in a series connected string.
But then you wouldn't have the benefit of keeping your batteries
balanced ;-)
Mathew, here is someone currently "ganging" up on their charging, FYI...
http://www.knology.net/~gdion/EVPorsche/chargers.html
~ Peanut Gallery ~
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This "charger" is going to have abysmal efficiency. It uses basic principals
so should not be patentable. It may be dangerous as well. David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Danny Miller
Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2006 5:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Bad b
This guy is actually patenting the "bad boy" charger as a new
invention. Guess you all are gonna owe royalties:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/miam
i-dade/cities_neighborhoods/pinecrest/14731378.htm
Danny
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It's probably undersized, but I'm really interested in the Stirling
compressor used in this Coleman cooler.
http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=5726
-750&categoryid=8595
It uses only helium gas as the working fluid and sailboat people love
it because it uses so little energy that it can run off of a small
solar panel. I would like to put a/c in my MR2, but using a
conventional system with even the most "environmentally friendly"
refrigerant just seems like a case of less bad rather than more good.
Come fall I'm going to get one of these and figure out how to adapt it.
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I found the charger plug HERE:
http://www.educationuk.org/uk_culture_guide/images/art.jpg
EVRIDER
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From: Michael Perry
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [from the RAV4-EVlist] Researchers say nano capacitors could
displacebatteries
Interesting. I'm trying to picture what size of outlet it'd take to charge
an EV in 5 minutes.
Even if it only had a 50 mile range, that could be handy... but I'd be
standing clear during charging, just in case. <g> There are a lot of
household uses where those could be extremely useful.
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From: "EVRIDER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "EV Discussion ListProc" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:53 PM
Subject: Fw: [from the RAV4-EVlist] Researchers say nano capacitors could
displacebatteries
> WOW,
> EVRIDER....
> Would that they were available now.....
>
> ************************
> Article URL:
http://www.smalltimes.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=11739
>
> Researchers say nano capacitors could displace batteries
> By Hiawatha Bray
> The Boston Globe
> June 28, 2006 -
>
> Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology think they're on
the verge of making traditional batteries obsolete. The researchers are
working on a new device that uses carbon nanotubes to store and release
electrical energy in a system that could carry as much power as today's lead
or lithium batteries. But unlike the rechargeable batteries used on today's
cellphones and laptop computers, these devices could be recharged hundreds
of thousands of times before wearing out. And instead of taking hours to
recharge, they could be powered up in about the same time it takes to fill
up a gas tank.
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While looking on ebay I saw a Raptor 600 DC Controller for sale.
I have no ties to this sale but looks good for someone working on a
project.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Raptor-600-DC-Motor-
Controller_W0QQitemZ260002934707QQihZ016QQcategoryZ42924QQssPageNameZWD
VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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While looking on ebay I saw a Raptor 600 DC Controller for sale.
I have no ties to this sale but looks good for someone working on a
project.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Raptor-600-DC-Motor-
Controller_W0QQitemZ260002934707QQihZ016QQcategoryZ42924QQssPageNameZWD
VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Cheer up Shawn, look on the bright side. Matt gets to be the number one car
again for a month. This means even more exposure for EVs. We have had EVs
now for several months in the top positions. Once you are car of the month
you are gone off the radar. I'm sure Matt will make it next month.
Roderick Wilde
"Suck Amps EV Racing"
www.suckamps.com
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From: "Shawn M. Waggoner (EVDL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
OK, as quickly as it came...it's gone again...
Honestly, Joule Injected was there for a few minutes! Next month!
Not so very happy,
Shawn
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn M. Waggoner (EVDL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:07 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
Dude, I think somehow your prayers just got answered...not sure how, but
take a look: http://www.dragtimes.com/
There it is on the front page, Joule Injected!!!
One very happy,
Shawn Wagoner
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Husted
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Dragtimes Vote Where were all the Who's?
Hey all
You know, I was so hoping, as I'm sure John was, for a real Horton and
the
Who's moment, with all the Whos casting their "we are here" chant. As of
this writing Matt received 80 votes. Now you all know me, I steer clear
of
flame wars, I try to remain middle course and as un-biased as I can. I
found it surprising that a lot of people I met in Joliet associated me
with
racing. Actually I'm running 60% daily to 40% race stuff, actually 90%
forklift 6% and 4%. So the majority of my stuff moves very slow to
average
speeds. I'm also very open that I'm not even an EV'er yet, but I do get
to
live vicariously through you guys. So hopefully without pissing anyone
off,
I wanted to share some thoughts on how I see stuff, that is if anyone's
even
reading this far 8^ P
I've had the pleasure of being an EVDL member for a year now and feel
very
much a member of the community here. I wanted to bring to attention that
sometimes, it seems to me, the door doesn't always swing back. What I
mean
is, it seems like a lot of racers are there when the call is made to show
for a green day or like this opening of WKTEC stuff and are always active
community wise and then low support is sometimes shown back when they may
need or want it.
I'm really not one to "chaulkboard" but there are those who do, either
way
it's human nature that if a door only swings one way the door usually
stops
swinging. It's also human nature to want a pat on the back or maybe EVen
30
days of fame once in a while 8^ ) One could say that it's a stupid vote,
or
they aren't into racing, and yes I know it's a holiday weekend, but for
what
ever reason, support was not given.
I like to think of the race guys as God's green solders. Rod is kind of
like John the Baptist, eating locusts and hunny, screaming in the
wilderness
for all to repent, lmao. Wayland, eat's, breathes, and sleeps EV. Matt
and
I talk often, I consider him a friend and I know how hard he preaches the
EV
gosspel. Heck he just wrote a program and tossed it out to you guys so he
does a lot for the community. Now I doubt Matt's heart crushed or
anything
but as a friend I wanted him to win.
I guess I just wanted to say that sometimes it is the little things that
count.
I guess the only thing left to say is...
YIP
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric
For those to young to know who Horton and the Who's are, kindly disregard
this posting 8^ P
peace!
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No pictures; but it is what I thought of doing years ago...with a Cadillac no
less:
http://www.visforvoltage.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=3818&s=093830c2d4de0416ca152fc10a078eef
EVRIDER
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Hi folks,
Just brought a Sakura S200 hybrid pedalec Electric scooter. What fun!
Does about 20 miles on it's 36v 14AH Deep discharge Gell Lead Acids,
and while it isn't the best up hill (you sometimes have to give it a
hand with the pedals) it is certainly great around crowded Bristol, UK!
Sadly due to UK regs it's limited in speed in it's electric mode but
I've had a little tinker to see where everything is. The controller
is rather neatly underneath the footwell and the batteries are under
the seat.
Next job is of course seeing what tinkering can be done. I'm sure I
can get another few mph out of this baby (strictly for off-road use
you understand) ;)
Anyone else got something similar which they'd like to share
knowledge about? This isn't classed as an electric moped, more of a
scooter with pedals to enable it to be qualified as a bike.
Nikki
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Robert Chew wrote:
Why not just open the windows! :-)
Not a overly viable option when it's 102 and humid outside!
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