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>From The Morning Call February 26, 2007
It's watts under the hood
Environmentalist wants vo-tech schools to teach electric-car
conversion.
By Patrick Lester Of The Morning Call
When it comes to rising gasoline prices, no one gets more giddy
than Jenny Isaacs.
Forgive her for taking pleasure in the nation's motoring misery,
but it's fueling her crusade to silence the engines driving the
American public.
Isaacs wants to see more electric-powered vehicles on the road,
so she's hoping gas prices, now well over $2 per gallon, may give
drivers the nudge to go electric. She's not content to sit idle,
though.
The 42-year-old Tinicum Township woman has recruited an electric
vehicle expert from California to teach vocational-technical
school instructors from the Philadelphia region how to turn
gas-powered vehicles into cars that run on electricity. Those
teachers could eventually pass their knowledge on to students.
Isaacs' goal is to increase the number of battery-operated
vehicles on the road while reducing smog and fossil-fuel
dependence and combating global warming.
''It seems to be only high gas prices that brings attention to
alternative fuels,'' said Isaacs. ''I believe what I'm doing is
investing time and energy in spreading information. My work is
going to spread out. But choices have to be made on a national
level. I do see that leadership is taking place around these
issues and gives us hope.''
Teachers enrolled at the 10-day course beginning July 31 at North
Montco Technical Career Center in Towamencin Township, Montgomery
County, will convert her out-of-commission 1985 Volkswagen
Vanagon into a road-going electric vehicle.
Bern Wagenseller, North Montco's vocational education supervisor,
said six teachers have signed up for the program. He said
students may have the opportunity to dismantle the Vanagon, do
welding work and paint the vehicle once the conversion is
complete. Students from the North Penn, Souderton, Wissahickon,
Methacton and Perkiomen Valley school districts attend the
school.
''This touches on so many of the concepts we're teaching,''
Wagenseller said. ''We support anything that's good for the
country and the planet.''
There's something in the project for Isaacs, too. She'll be
getting a new and improved vehicle.
Isaacs' new electric vehicle will be used as a showpiece for
Bucks County Renewables, a nonprofit environmental group she
formed last year with a mission of reducing America's dependence
on fossil fuels.
Isaacs and her husband, Matt, already own an electric-powered
1991 Dodge Colt, but that vehicle can only make 20-mile round
trips before it's time to recharge its batteries, a process that
takes six hours. The couple has determined it costs about $1.50
in electricity for each charge.
They also own a Toyota Highlander hybrid, which runs on a
combination of gas and electricity.
Isaacs, who plans to take the Vanagon to schools and community
events, acknowledges the battle she faces in weaning America off
its addiction to gasoline.
Electric cars have historically been used primarily for
experimental purposes and by hobbyists.
The sale of hybrid vehicles, those that run on a combination of
gas and electricity, more than doubled in in the U.S. in 2005,
but they still represent little more than 1 percent of overall
vehicle sales, according to an Associated Press report. In 2005,
registrations for new hybrids rose by nearly 200,000. Five years
earlier, fewer than 8,000 were sold.
Oliver Perry, president of the Eastern Electric Vehicle Club,
which has about 100 members, mostly from the Philadelphia region,
said a shift from gas to electric will occur only if the public
demands electric vehicles and if the government offers subsidies
and incentives.
He said he can't blame car manufacturers for not getting into the
electric car business because those vehicles aren't economical
yet and there hasn't been much of a market for them.
''Many [electric vehicle owners] are well-to-do,'' Perry said.
''The person who has to balance their checkbook is going to go
out and buy a good, economical [gas-powered] vehicle.''
It takes hours to recharge batteries in electric vehicles and
there aren't charging stations out on the road. Batteries must be
replaced every three to five years. Some electric vehicles have
as many as 24 batteries.
''You have to be willing to spend thousands and thousands of
dollars on batteries,'' Perry said.
Isaacs and other environmentalists were encouraged by President
Bush's recent call to reduce gasoline usage by 20 percent over
the next 10 years and ''press on with battery research.'' In his
January State of the Union speech, Bush said he'd like to see the
United States cut oil imports from the Middle East by 75
percent.
In Pennsylvania, a rebate program for people who buy hybrid
electric vehicles those that incorporate both gasoline and
electric power became so popular in its first year in 2005 that
funding for the program was used up in less than 10 months.
Mike Parker, the California man who will be teaching the local
course, said cars he converts can be charged in six to 10 hours,
but the vehicles have an on-board battery charger, he said. He
said the vehicles will travel at speeds of 55 to 65 mph and have
a range of 60 to 100 miles.
Parker has taught 46 California teachers the mechanics of
electric vehicle conversions. The course costs $300 per person. A
typical conversion, which includes from eight to 16 lead acid
batteries, costs about $10,000, Parker said. The labor costs
$2,500 to $5,000.
''My goal is to see conversion electric car shops in every city
in Central California along the 99 [state] highway,'' he said.
''Electric cars and clean air: what a concept.''
It's a concept embraced by several environmental groups.
ActionPA and the Energy Justice Network are co-sponsoring the
course at the North Montco school.
Mike Ewall, ActionPA's director and founder of the Energy Justice
Network, said he doesn't know of any similar electric conversion
courses in the region.
''Electric cars are one of the things we're eager to promote,''
Ewall said. ''If we're going to get off oil in general, if we're
going to clean up air pollution in cities, we need to move to
electric vehicles.''
Isaacs said she wouldn't expect increased use of vehicle
batteries and the subsequent disposal of them to create a new
environmental problem.
''It's already mandated by law that you recycle car batteries,''
she said.
GAS TO ELECTRIC
What: Teachers from area vocational-technical schools will learn
how to convert gas-powered vehicles to electric-powered vehicles
during a two-week course this summer.
Who: The 20-person course is open only to vo-tech teachers. Bucks
County Renewables, a nonprofit environmental group, is organizing
the program.
Where: North Montco Technical Career Center, 1265 Sumneytown
Pike, Towamencin Township, Montgomery County.
When: July 30 to Aug. 10.
For more information: E-mail information requests to
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County Renewables, the group organizing the course, visit
www.buckscountyrenewables.com.
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Electric vehicle firm gains traction
SoCal-based Phoenix is expected to sell fleets of battery-powered
trucks to PG&E and others.
By John O'Dell Times Staff Writer February 26, 2007
A Southern California company that showed off a prototype of its
battery-powered pickup truck to President Bush at the White House
last week aims to be a big player in the clean-car movement far
from Pennsylvania Avenue.
Although still in start-up mode, Phoenix Motorcars Inc. has
received letters of intent from utility companies and other
corporate and government fleet operators to buy almost 650 of the
company's electric trucks, Chief Executive Daniel J. Elliott
said.
Phoenix, which imports its vehicles from South Korea and adds the
batteries and electric drive systems at its assembly plant in
Ontario, intends to begin selling retail versions of the
four-door pickup and a new five-passenger sport utility vehicle
by the end of next year.
But it will take commercial fleet sales to get Phoenix started,
and the company is expected to announce a deal with San
Francisco-based Pacific Gas & Electric Co. as early as today.
The utility, a unit of PG&E Corp., is expected to buy the first
four trucks that Phoenix builds after it obtains full U.S. safety
certification and plans to acquire as many as 200 in stages
during the year.
Elliott said that safety testing was underway and that he
expected to obtain federal approval by mid-April.
In addition, Elliott said, Phoenix was "deep into talks" to
supply the Port of Los Angeles with electric trucks to replace
some of the 4,000 gasoline-powered compact pickups used by the
port and its various tenants. "This could be a huge market for
us," he said.
A spokeswoman for the port, which with neighboring Port of Long
Beach is under intense pressure to reduce smog-causing emissions
produced by its operations, said Friday that Phoenix was being
considered as a truck supplier but no deal had been signed.
Elliott said privately owned Phoenix was founded five years ago
by Ojai-based investors Daniel Riegert and Dana Muscato but was
only now beginning to market a vehicle because "it has taken this
long to find a battery we're confident about."
The batteries are of a new type from Altair Nanotechnologies Inc.
that employs a proprietary lithium-titanate substance the
Reno-based company developed to store energy. The NanoSafe brand
batteries provide more power but slightly shorter range than
conventional lithium-ion batteries of the same size, Chief
Executive Alan Gotcher said.
The batteries are able to operate at extremes of heat and cold
without the heat-buildup problems that have made it difficult to
adapt lithium-ion batteries, widely used in computers and
cellphones, for automotive use.
Gotcher said Altair was developing a second-generation
lithium-titanate material that would store more energy to provide
longer range in electric vehicles without increasing battery
size.
Batteries using the advanced material, Elliott said, are expected
to be ready for Phoenix's 2008 introduction of a mid-size
electric SUV that could travel 250 miles between charges at
speeds up to 95 mph.
The initial truck, a four-door, five-passenger pickup with a
short, 4 1/2 -foot bed, will be capable of topping 90 mph and
will have 130 miles of range. The battery pack can be recharged
in less than 10 minutes with a special rapid charging system,
Elliott said, or in about five hours using regular 240-volt
household current the kind required for electric ovens and
clothes dryers.
Elliott would not identify the automaker that supplies Phoenix's
vehicles but acknowledged that they were almost identical to
trucks made by SUV specialist SsangYong Motor Co., one of South
Korea's smaller car builders. SsangYong is controlled by China's
Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp., which holds a 51% stake.
The SUV and a more luxurious version of the pickup, with leather
upholstery, high-end stereo systems and other creature comforts,
will be sold to retail customers, probably through a dealership
network, Elliott said. They are expected to be priced under
$50,000.
The commercial, or fleet, version of the truck is priced at
$45,000.
Elliott said Phoenix intended to use the zero-emission vehicle
credits it would receive from the California Air Resources Board
to push it into profitability after selling only 500 of the
commercial vehicles.
The state permits the credits to be bought and sold, he noted,
and most major automakers will need to begin buying credits next
year to avoid paying penalties to the state.
California's oft-revised zero-emission vehicle mandate requires
automakers that don't meet an annually escalating production
requirement to pay a fine of $5,000 for each required vehicle
they don't produce. All are meeting their annual quotas now with
experimental fuel-cell vehicles, but most are expected to fall
behind by 2009.
Phoenix will receive 40 credits for each electric vehicle it
sells and expects to be able to market those credits to other
automakers.
The company has set a goal of selling 7,000 electric vehicles
next year and 20,000 half to fleets and half to retail
customers in 2009.
Elliott, one of six advocates of alternative energy who were
invited to the White House on Friday, noted that Bush opened the
meeting by reiterating that he was "very concerned" about U.S.
dependence on imported oil.
"He asked a lot of questions about the various technologies we
represented," Elliott said, "and he asked how the federal
government could help develop them. He didn't make any promises,
though."
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Thrifty Electric Car Turns On One Town
By JOHN J. FIALKA [EMAIL PROTECTED] February 26, 2007 PageA9
LINCOLN, Calif. -- Electric cars are getting a lot of
public-relations mileage as lawmakers and auto makers search for
ways to curb vehicle emissions linked to global warming. But many
of the electric vehicles being touted are pricey, years away from
being ready, or both.
Not the 150 electric cars purring around the residential streets
here.
The cars, which resemble souped-up golf carts, are simple, cheap
and have a top speed of about 25 miles per hour. They can travel
30 miles before their power system, which is composed of six car
batteries, run out of juice. This city of 38,000, located 25
miles northeast of Sacramento, is spending $1 million to change
its roads and traffic signs to accommodate the cars. Several
other California towns are preparing to copy Lincoln's approach.
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Roger E. Oldenkamp sitting in his Global Electric car in Lincoln,
Calif.]
Global Electric Motorcars LLC, which was bought by
DaimlerChrysler AG in 2000, has sold 33,000 of these neighborhood
electric vehicles, known as NEVs. Fargo, N.D.-based Global
Electric is positioned to be among those first in line for
possible new state and federal incentives designed to promote the
use of alternative-fuel vehicles.
Electric cars could help meet goals set in a proposal by
President Bush that would mandate increased use of
alternative-fuel vehicles. That could mean new and probably
larger tax incentives to buy them, replacing a tax credit that
expired last year, which was worth roughly 2.5% of the price of
the car. Meanwhile, in Sacramento, state regulators are studying
new incentives and mandates for electric cars to meet
California's new law to curb global warming.
NEVs aren't intended as full-fledged car replacements that can
reach high speeds and take to the highways. Others, including
General Motors Corp., Renault SA, Toyota Motor Corp. and French
aerospace magnate Serge Dassault, are working on more versatile
battery-powered vehicles. But the cars may not be on the market
until 2010 or later, and could cost as much as $50,000 because of
the high-tech batteries they will have to use.
At least four other small companies are gearing up to sell little
electric cars in the U.S. Zenn Motor Co. of Toronto offers a
$12,000 model that looks like a standard compact car. Friday, Mr.
Bush posed next to a small electric truck parked on the White
House lawn. It was made by Phoenix Motocars Inc. of Ontario,
Calif., one of two companies beginning to sell highway-capable
electric vehicles. The price starts at $45,000.
The strategy behind the NEV is deliberately low-tech. It has the
suspension and control system of an automobile and standard
safety features such as seat belts, headlights and turn signals.
The price range for Global Electric models runs from $6,800 to
$9,700 for the two- and four-passenger versions. The company is
making a six-seat version for hotels, industries and government
agencies that would replace shuttle vans.
"Our drivers are very sensitive to price," Larry Oswald, chief
executive of Global Electric, said in a recent interview. "We're
normally the second or third car in a household. We strive to
keep our costs down and make it very simple to own."
Critics don't like the fact that the small cars can't be used on
the highway. "We believe in vehicles that are freeway capable,"
says Ron Freund, chairman of the Electric Auto Association, a
nonprofit Palo Alto, Calif., group.
But the cars have a lot of fans here. Roger E. Oldenkamp, a
retired civil engineer who bought a Global Electric vehicle in
May 2003, says, "Parking is a lot easier. You get to meet more
people. They wave at you and you stop and chat."
Unlike golf carts, NEVs meet federal and state requirements to
drive on residential streets in more than 40 states. Lincoln,
which is in danger of violating federal antismog rules, is
installing special lanes for them on major roads that have speed
limits exceeding 35 mph. The city is also requiring shopping
centers to install charging stations for the vehicles.
According to Global Electric, annual fuel costs for an NEV driven
an average of 100 miles a week will come to about $58, compared
with $425.63 for a compact, gasoline-engine car that gets 27
miles per gallon.
Global Electric's car was the brainchild of Dan Sturges, a
Boulder, Colo., businessman and former designer for GM. He left
the big auto maker to develop an NEV prototype in the mid-1990s.
A product recall later sent his Livonia, Mich., company into
bankruptcy. Its remains were sold to a Fargo businessman who
moved the business there and later sold it to DaimlerChrysler,
just as California's first electric car mandates were looming.
"We were the story of how the second mouse gets the cheese," Mr.
Sturges says.
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I don't know if following the US battery charging
recommendation would help or not. I've got a pack of
24 US 145 that are about 2 years old, I posted a few
days about having trouble getting to the proper finish
voltage without cranking the current up. Rich, based
on his experience thinks my pack is shot. It was my
first pack, and I know I'm supposed to kill it, but...
I never pulled more than 350 amps at any time, and
when I did it was seldom and for a few seconds, 250A
is more of a typical max draw for me. I never let the
voltage sag below 130V as well. I watered them monthly
and never saw the tops of the plates. I put an average
of 2 cycles a day on them, ~15% in the morning and 20
to 25% in the evening. If as Rich states my pack is
worn out then I'm very disappointed in the life of the
US 145 batteries. I need to check my logs, but I think
the total millage is less than 10K. The pack is still
good for my trip to work for now, but the I had to
lower the finish voltage considerably to get the
finish current to a reasonable level.
What could I have done different? I'd really like
to know before I have to lay out the $$ for my next
pack.
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Press Release 07-015
Students Enter Competition to Produce a Zero-Emissions
Snowmobile
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NSF supports four teams in Clean Snowmobile Challenge
Students are designing snowmobiles with lower noise and emissions
while keeping performance.
The SAE Clean Snowmobile Challenge attracts teams of
undergraduate engineering students from across North America with
the goal of designing a snowmobile with lower environmental
impact, less noise, fewer emissions and a lighter footprint--all
without sacrificing the performance snowmobile enthusiasts love.
Credit: National Park Service]
February 26, 2007
Snowmobiles long ago replaced dogsleds for hauling people and
cargo in the polar regions, particularly in remote research
stations and field camps such as those on the Greenland Ice Sheet
and in Antarctica.
But for all their utility, snowmobiles are not very
environmentally friendly.
So, on March 19, 2007, four National Science Foundation
(NSF)-supported teams will compete in the SAE Clean Snowmobile
Challenge in Houghton, Mich., to produce a zero-emissions snow
vehicle. The challenge attracts teams of undergraduate
engineering students from across North America with the goal of
designing a snowmobile with lower environmental impact, less
noise, fewer emissions and a lighter footprint--all without
sacrificing the performance snowmobile enthusiasts love.
The NSF-funded projects are coordinated by VECO Polar Resources,
NSF's logistics contractor for Arctic research. The agency
awarded the group $10,000 to support the four teams.
The competition grew from the demand for cleaner snowmobiles in
national and state parks and forests. One alternative to
restricting or banning snowmobiles on public lands is to find
appropriate technological solutions to noise and pollution
problems.
Now in its fifth year, the challenge is a competition for college
and university student members of the Society of Automotive
Engineers (SAE) to encourage young engineers to design quieter
machines that produce low emissions, but still "smoke" in the
performance department. The students are given the opportunity to
apply their engineering skills to a difficult problem, working in
teams to develop real-world solutions.
Making the machines more environmentally friendly is both
practical and in keeping with the foundation's basic mission.
"NSF's mandate as a federal agency is to support integration of
science and engineering and education," noted Renee Crain, who
coordinates Arctic logistics for NSF's Office of Polar Programs.
"We also take very seriously our stewardship of the environment
where our grantees conduct research. Investing in this
competition helps NSF achieve our goals in engineering, education
and environmental stewardship."
NSF operates several research stations in remote, pristine
environments, including three stations and numerous field camps
in Antarctica and a research station on the summit of Greenland's
ice cap. Cleaner snowmobiles may benefit science in these places,
where locally produced snowmobile emissions can interfere with
data from instruments sampling global atmospheric constituents,
global transport of soot, and other highly sensitive
measurements.
As a result, NSF has been working on several fronts to make
operations more efficient and clean at these research outposts.
At Summit Station in Greenland, for example, long-range plans
include an incremental increase in renewable and alternative
energy systems, including an oxygenated fuels program to reduce
emissions, wind-power generation systems now in development, and
an electric vehicle program. Results from the Clean Snowmobile
Challenge may be incorporated into the plan.
Summit Station is the site of numerous national and international
research projects and the NSF-sponsored Greenland Environmental
Observatory, or GEOSummit, which monitors environmental
conditions year round. Contest winners will travel this summer to
Summit Station, courtesy of the NSF, to provide a real-world test
of the technology. Renewable energy manager Tracy Dahl from VECO
will participate in judging the contest and escort the winning
teams to Greenland.
At Summit Station they will spend several days in one of the
planet's most demanding environments, testing their snowmobiles
in field conditions. They also will meet with world-class
scientists to discuss research on such topics as global climate
change.
"It will be exciting to take these young engineers to a place as
unsual as the Greenland ice cap. It is a great opportunity for
them to participate first-hand in supporting globally important
research, and the experience can spark a passion for knowledge
that will last a lifetime," said Dahl.
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Media Contacts Peter West, NSF (703) 292-7761 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Program Contacts Tracy Dahl, Veco Polar Resources (303) 984-1450
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Related Websites Veco Polar Resources:
http://www.vecopolar.com/
SAE Clean Snowmobile Challenge:
http://students.sae.org/competitions/snow/
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nearly 1,700 universities and institutions. Each year, NSF
receives about 40,000 competitive requests for funding, and makes
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No sparks between Bush, Toyota
A coatless President Bush spent about five minutes looking over a
couple of electric vehicles on the White House south lawn Friday.
A 2007 Toyota Prius -- modified by A123 Systems to be a plug-in
that could go up to 40 miles on battery power -- was plugged via
an orange extension cord.
But Bush opted not to sit in either one or listen to either one
start.
White House reporters asked him whether he planned to buy one for
the ranch or put an electric vehicle in the presidential
motorcade. He smiled at the questions and said: "Have a good
weekend" several times, frustrating reporters trying to wring
more out of the story.
[...]
Contributors: Brian O'Connor, Sharon Terlep, David Shepardson,
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How about those super quiet ICE cars. I drove one at city driving speed and
cannot hear the engine. Some times I may try to start the engine, but it
was already running!!
If I open the window, I can hear the tires treads rolling on the surface and
that's about it. It was as quiet as my EV.
Roland
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From: "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Blind EV's
> Man this pisses me off. We work like heck to have a silent powerfull drive
> train.. and then the safety NAZIS step in and complain that if a Blind
> man... What a about Deaf???
>
> There is always somebody that fan find something wrong with what ever is
> not normal.
>
> Clearly.. I won't be adding backup beepers or flashing lights just to make
> some group safer.
>
> All vehicles have horns and lights, USE them when you see somebody about
> to
> make a mistake. And Oh Yea that's what brakes are for!!!
>
> I have snuck up on many folks.. it's kinda fun. In the drag lanes nobody
> steps un front of the lit off Gasser, But they just back up and walk into
> a
> EV with a LOT more torque on tap than the Guys using Explosions to move
> thier Sled.
>
> NPR can find a problems with a nice Sunny Day in May.
>
> And yes the Ford Escapes can seak up on the Ferry Crews.. "Geez you are as
> quiet as one of them HYBrids... Oh... You are one of them Too!!!
> It's fun sitting at lights and you can hear the other ICEers leaking
> gaskets, chirping Vbelt drive, burnt valves... squeaky brakes and other
> Bad
> maitence issues. I have been doing that since the mid 90s when I built
> Goldie for the first time, and snuck up on little old ladies in my
> apartment.
> That was fun... We need a polite horn.. not a freight train horn..kind of
> a
> meep or a nice Synthed Bong..Bong. Just to warn when we have to.
> We will leave the Kenworth Air horn for the fools that really need some
> telling off...
>
> I don't know how many times I have threatened to remove a truck's back up
> beeper with a shot gun.. but I hate the added noises that are just for
> safety,When the driver should be looking anyways, and the fools walking
> behind a Rig... should be very aware that if you can't see the driver...
> he
> can't see you.
>
> As you can see I am one of them personal responsibility Guys... I take
> mine
> quite seriously.
> And so should the Blind Guy stepping off the Curb and the Driver watching
> for pedestrians.
>
> Madman
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark E. Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:38 AM
> Subject: Blind EV's
>
>
> > Howdy folk's,
> >
> > I heard on NPR last week that blind groups were lobbying congress to
> require hybrid & EV manufacturers to put noisemakers on their vehicles.
> NPR
> recorded various cars going by and compared it to a Prius in electric mode
> and their test subject (a blind person) had to be pulled back from
> stepping
> out in front of the vehicle. Toyota claims they are looking into it
> (whatever that means).
> >
> > The announcer said we could have cow bells on the vehicles. I don't
> want to have to put baseball cards in the spokes of my wheels though.
> >
> > Of course turning down your controller frequency to 1.5kHz does the
> trick, at least I'm not the major cause of road-kill anymore in Roanoke,
> VA.
> (Also the controller runs more efficirntly/cooler).
> >
> > Have a renewable energy day,
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Don't pick lemons.
> > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> >
>
>
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Apparently there are people who do believe loud pipes do save lives. On
motorcycles loud
pipes don't particularly save lives. Bigger tires would make enough noise, too.
That an EV
might be legislated out of existence may not happen, but it is irritating.
Blind persons are, of course, pedestrians (or passengers). Blind persons on
streets have
canes or seeing-eye dogs. Deaf persons may be allowed to drive in some states
and some
circumstances. OSHA and other gov't agencies have all sorts of safety rules.
It supports the arguement that there is a conspiracy to keep EVs off the roads.
I don't
think there is a planned conspiracy as there are lots of various groups who
don't like EVs
for various reasons, and it still has an effect on the 'market or potential
market; for
EVs.
Steve Love -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Rudman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Blind EV's
> Man this pisses me off. We work like heck to have a silent powerfull drive
> train.. and then the safety NAZIS step in and complain that if a Blind
> man... What a about Deaf???
>
> There is always somebody that fan find something wrong with what ever is
> not normal.
>
> Clearly.. I won't be adding backup beepers or flashing lights just to make
> some group safer.
>
> All vehicles have horns and lights, USE them when you see somebody about to
> make a mistake. And Oh Yea that's what brakes are for!!!
>
> I have snuck up on many folks.. it's kinda fun. In the drag lanes nobody
> steps un front of the lit off Gasser, But they just back up and walk into a
> EV with a LOT more torque on tap than the Guys using Explosions to move
> thier Sled.
>
> NPR can find a problems with a nice Sunny Day in May.
>
> And yes the Ford Escapes can seak up on the Ferry Crews.. "Geez you are as
> quiet as one of them HYBrids... Oh... You are one of them Too!!!
> It's fun sitting at lights and you can hear the other ICEers leaking
> gaskets, chirping Vbelt drive, burnt valves... squeaky brakes and other Bad
> maitence issues. I have been doing that since the mid 90s when I built
> Goldie for the first time, and snuck up on little old ladies in my
> apartment.
> That was fun... We need a polite horn.. not a freight train horn..kind of a
> meep or a nice Synthed Bong..Bong. Just to warn when we have to.
> We will leave the Kenworth Air horn for the fools that really need some
> telling off...
>
> I don't know how many times I have threatened to remove a truck's back up
> beeper with a shot gun.. but I hate the added noises that are just for
> safety,When the driver should be looking anyways, and the fools walking
> behind a Rig... should be very aware that if you can't see the driver... he
> can't see you.
>
> As you can see I am one of them personal responsibility Guys... I take mine
> quite seriously.
> And so should the Blind Guy stepping off the Curb and the Driver watching
> for pedestrians.
>
> Madman
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark E. Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:38 AM
> Subject: Blind EV's
>
>
> > Howdy folk's,
> >
> > I heard on NPR last week that blind groups were lobbying congress to
> require hybrid & EV manufacturers to put noisemakers on their vehicles. NPR
> recorded various cars going by and compared it to a Prius in electric mode
> and their test subject (a blind person) had to be pulled back from stepping
> out in front of the vehicle. Toyota claims they are looking into it
> (whatever that means).
> >
> > The announcer said we could have cow bells on the vehicles. I don't
> want to have to put baseball cards in the spokes of my wheels though.
> >
> > Of course turning down your controller frequency to 1.5kHz does the
> trick, at least I'm not the major cause of road-kill anymore in Roanoke, VA.
> (Also the controller runs more efficirntly/cooler).
> >
> > Have a renewable energy day,
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Don't pick lemons.
> > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> >
>
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You don't suppose, do you, that this long overdue updating of mpg
testing methodology, is brought forth now to convince the average American that the new tech isn't enough better than ICEs to warrant changing?
More of the SOS. Reminds me of what happened to the Nuclear program.
Doug
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On 26 Feb 2007 at 13:42, TiM M wrote:
> I had to
> lower the finish voltage considerably to get the
> finish current to a reasonable level.
How much? I'd expect some reduction in finish voltage after 2 years of use.
I probably shouldn't tell anybody using USBMCs to chuck US's charging
instructions, but I think they're too aggressive, too. IMO, if you've been
trying
to achieve US's voltage recommendation on every charge, you've probably
just about beaten them to death.
If your charger can do dv/dt, try that next time.
David Roden
EVDL Administrator
http://www.evdl.org/
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On 26 Feb 2007 at 13:48, someone wrote:
> Bush's attitudes ...
NO PARTISAN POLITICS on the EVDL. Got it?
Other listers, please don't respond to partisan political comments, it just
makes the situation worse.
Sorry to seem impatient, but a few people - just a few - seem to be
consistently forgetful about this, or perhaps they just lack self-control.
One more time: snide political comments (or even not-so-snide ones) have no
place here. Keep it to yourself, snigger with your signficant other, trade
jibes
with your coworkers, whatever, wherever. Just refrain from making partisan
political comments on the list.
Thanks.
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Just to add to Tom's story, the same panels (still in use) are apparently going
up for sale. I don't know why but it was in the local papers a few days ago.
----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Gocze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 4:32:54 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative transportation & energy in the White House
Those panels were for solar hot water, I know because I rebuilt them
and installed them at Unity College in Unity Maine.
They were really removed because they needed to re-roof that wing of
the White House and some brilliant designer installed them so close
together that the only way they could be removed was with a recip
saw. I spent weeks rebuilding the manifolds. The powers that be
decided that it was not cost effective to rebuild them like I did (it
was a bitch!) and they wound up here in Maine.
Ah, bureaucracy.
Tom
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I am glad this has come out.
It wil hasten the transition to all electric plugin vehicle for fuel
economy concious people.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 1:42 pm, bruce parmenter wrote:
EVLN(New ratings reduce MPG numbers)
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http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?page=article&Article_ID=14232
Daily Policy Digest Environment Issues February 23, 2007
CAR M.P.G. RATINGS GOING DOWN
Fuel-saving gasoline-electric hybrid cars don't save as much fuel
as thought, according to new government fuel-economy ratings
available to the public for the first time.
The new ratings go into effect beginning with 2008 models, a few
of which will soon be on sale. But now it's possible to tell
what rating 2007 and older models would get using the 2008
standards.
Toyota's Prius, the best-known and best-selling gas-electric car
in the United States, drops from a 60 mpg rating under the
current system to 48 miles per gallon in the city under the 2008
testing procedure -- a 20 percent decline.
Its highway mileage rating falls about 12 percent, to 45 mpg.
The Ford Escape hybrid, which uses a gasoline-electric drive
system similar to Toyota's, goes down about 12 percent.
"What the cars get hasn't changed. It's just the numbers on the
sticker," says Toyota spokesman Mike Michels. The lowered Prius
rating is "probably more reflective of real-world experience," he
says.
Tests the government has used for mileage estimates were created
in the 1970s and haven't reflected today's driving environment.
They have assumed, for instance, that people don't use air
conditioning and don't drive more than about 60 mph.
Source: James R. Healey, "Car mpg ratings going down; Hybrids
take biggest hit in new system," USA Today, February 23, 2007.
For text:
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070223/1a_lede23x_dom.art.htm
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This new shirt is far out awesome! It will be the first competitor's shirt I
will wear. Chip has done an enormous amount of work for NEDRA and for EVs in
general. I am so glad he is on our side. He is definitely the Big Daddy Roth
of the EV world. He could be out there making the big bucks doing the
T-shirts for some of the big name gas racers but his heart is in the
electrics. We are certainly lucky to have him.
Roderick Wilde
"Suck Amps EV Racing"
www.suckamps.com
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From: "John Wayland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ev@listproc.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:44 PM
Subject: White Zombie - Electric Muscle Car T-shirts soon available
Hello to All,
I'm sooooo excited that my friend Chip Gribben has designed a new T-shirt
for me! For those unaware, Chip is 'the' force behind all of the coolest
looking cartoon artwork that has transformed NEDRA the past few years.
From the Power of DC, to Battery Beach Burnout, to the Late Night
Nationals, they're all Chip's handiwork. After seeing his rendition of
White Zombie alongside Gone Postal on the Late Night Nationals design, I
just knew I had to have White Zombie T-shirts. Rather than tell everyone
how great it looks, simply go to http://www.plasmaboyracing.com, then
click on the 'Photos' button. Tomorrow, I'll be at a local T-shirt printer
to have the first dozen shirts made up, so the Plasma Boy team can wear
them at this weekend's 'Portland Roadster Show.
Make sure to post back to the EVDL and let Chip know what you all think!
When available for sale, all profits will go to Chip to help cover his art
supply costs. Chip has never asked for anything in return for all his
efforts, I just think we need to support this great EVer.
See Ya......John 'Plasma Boy' Wayland
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