And if you plug them in the same phase then you get 0V...

Cor van de Water
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Nathan Loofbourrow
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:26 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Best J1772 deal, Re: chargers in parallel

Exactly. So on two 20A circuits it provides 240V/20A (provided they're
on opposite busses).

n

On Mar 28, 2013, at 20:19, "Cor van de Water" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The device claims to have no step-up transformer, so I am
> led to believe that it has two 120V input cords to combine
> (using relays for a shock-free experience) both into the
> 240V output.
> 
> Cor van de Water
> Chief Scientist
> Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
> Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Lawrence Rhodes
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:25 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Best J1772 deal, Re: chargers in parallel
> 
> That device will not give you 30 amps.  Maybe 7 amps at 240vac.  You
> really need 
> the two mains to get the amps.  This is a simple voltage converter.
> Lawrence 
> Rhodes.....
> 
> From: Nathan Loofbourrow <[email protected]>
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Best J1772 deal, Re: chargers in parallel
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> 
> Sounds like what this device does:
> http://www.quick220.com/220_volt.htm
> 
> On Mar 27, 2013, at 19:45, "Cor van de Water" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> 
>> That is *certainly* a way to create life-threatening situations!
>> A somewhat acceptable way to create a 240V circuit using two
>> independent 120V branches is to use single pole relays that pull
>> in after you plugged in the socket and an additional 240V relay 
>> that drops out as soon as one of the two plugs is removed.
>> Each 120V relay is powered from one 120V plug and its NO contact
>> makes contact between incoming AC and one of the outgoing phases
>> but one of the outgoing wires is also interrupted by the NO
>> contact of a 240V relay that will drop out as soon as one of the
>> incoming 120V plugs is pulled, so the load does not continue to
>> hold one 120V relay with the 120V from the other leg.
>> NOTE that the 240V relay must have a lower current rating than
>> the min hold current of the 120V relays.
>> 
>> No doubt there are other circuits to protect this kludge, but it
>> is best to simply use a 240V outlet!
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