Thanks Bruce. I've had some really big guys comment on the spaciousness of my i-MiEV as they gave the seats a workout this past weekend at the Mother Earth News Fair. Surely you'v actually tried one on before declaring it too small?
Anyway, SEVA member Lee Colleton is taking his i-MiEV south for the BC2BC rally, and he knows what he's up against, having crossed the main three Cascades Range passes in a single day in the dead of winter last year! Cheers, Jay Donnaway Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:55:17 -0700 (PDT) From: brucedp5 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [EVDL] BC2BC-2013: Tesla, iMiev, Leaf, RAV4EV-Gen2, e-motorcycles, ?ActiveE? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ?For Fun?, or is there a purpose to the challenge/madness? [ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVent-BC2BC-2013-1500mi-Rally-6-29-7-8-Blaine-WA-to-San-Ysidro-CA-td4663361.html ] The above newswire mentions that EVs other than Teslas are going to participate. But I thought has the public EVSE infrastructure improve that much since the last time I looked at the route? I spent (wasted) the afternoon, tracing the steps it would take for the lowest common denominator EV: an iMiev with a 60mi-range, 3kW-onboard charger http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/imiev/12/showroom/overview.do 7 hours=3kw on-board charger No one wants to come in empty, and running from Canada to Baja CA, Mx is going to have some serious mountain climbing, so I target recharging every 50 miles. I made a route map below, and have listed incrementally the stops I would need to make if I were driving an iMiev (fantasy time because my big bod won't fit in one). With recargo and plugshare basically down for the count until their programers fix them, it was an arduous task to get the data below. When it became all too clear that with 7 hours to recharge at each stop means days just to reach the Oregon/California border. That is not going to work, and definably not be fun for the driver. So, the iMiev and Leaf must be planning on using the public level-3 EVSE that WA & OR have. I listed those L3 EVSE sites from the U.S. Fed Gov site, until I hit a wall. The L3 EVSE stops at the OR/CA border. And finding level-2 charging between OR/CA border going south along highway 5 was a serious challenge. Sure there were a few RV parks along the way that you would have to live (and likely pay full $$ price for $4 worth of electricity). I did not find a public EVSE until I reached Winters, CA (west of Sacramento & in the direction of the rally route). So while the BC2BC-2013 blurb says other EVs are participating, really why would they? Because level-3 EVSE ends at the OR/CA border. It really points out this is a Tesla EV EVent. Conclusion/Bottom-line: Until NRG keeps their promise to install public EVSE, or until some funding is found to install level3 & 2 EVSe like what WA & OR already have, California has huge public EVSE gaps that EVs like the Leaf & iMiev are not going to be able to use. See below if want to look at what I found. ----------------------------------------- http://goo.gl/maps/LhHyK Level-2 recharging route map [Level-2 searches, distances in miles between locations] http://www.recargo.com/sites/2895 Blaine HPC 567 Peace Portal Dr., Blaine, WA 98230 0.0 mi - EVSE near start of BC2BC-2013 http://www.recargo.com/sites/3328 Northwest Washington Electrical Industry JATC 306 Anderson Rd., Mt Vernon, WA 98273 52.3 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/5232 Mountlake Terrace Park-n-Ride 6001 236th Street SW Mountlake Terrace, WA 98043 41.4 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/8237 Tahoma Market 6006 Pacific Highway East, Fife, WA 98424 55.3 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/6158 Wendy's 817 Harrison Ave., Centralia, WA 98531 49.5 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/1966 Columbia Nissan 700 7th Ave., Longview, WA 98632 55.3 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/7199 Fred Meyer 11565 SW Pacific Highway Tigard, OR 97223 38.2 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/7309 Fred Meyer 3740 Market Street Northeast Salem, OR 97301 43.9 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/5185/ Pioneer Villa Truck Plaza 33180 Oregon 228 Halsey, OR 97348 43.9 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/4549/ Vintage Inn Restaurant 1590 Gateway Blvd. Cottage Grove, OR 97424 45.7 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/4551 Brutke's Wagon Wheel 227 NW Garden Valley Blvd., Roseburg, OR 97470 50.4 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/4552/ Wolf Creek Inn 100 Front St. Wolf Creek, OR 97497 49.5 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/3107 Fairground Chevron 1510 E. Pine St. Central Point, OR 97502 43.9 mi [stopped searching] ----------------------------------------- [Level-3 searches, distances in miles between locations] The Outlet Shoppes at Burlington - AeroVironment 448 Fashion Way Burlington, WA 98233 Phone: 888-833-2148 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 42 mi Fred Meyer 12221 120th Ave NE Kirkland, WA 98034 Phone: 888-998-2546 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 51 mi Tahoma Market 6006 Pacific Hwy E Fife, WA 98424 Phone: 888-998-2546 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 33 mi Wendy's 817 Harrison Ave Centralia, WA 98531 Phone: 888-833-2148 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 46 mi Sunset Empire Transit District 900 Marine Dr Astoria, OR 97103 Phone: 888-833-2148 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 55 mi Fred Meyer 51501 Columbia River Hwy Scappoose, OR 97056 Phone: 888-833-2148 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 55 mi Fred Meyer 3740 Market NE Salem, OR 97301 Phone: 888-998-2546 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 55 mi Pioneer Villa Truck Plaza 33180 Highway 228 Halsey, OR 97348 Phone: 888-833-2148 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 39 mi Vintage Inn Restaurant 1590 Gateway Blvd Cottage Grove, OR 97424 Phone: 888-833-2148 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 42 mi Wagon Wheel Restaurant 227 NW Garden Valley Blvd Roseburg, OR 97470 Phone: 888-833-2148 541-672-7555 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 43 mi Grants Pass Chamber of Commerce 1995 NW Vine St Grants Pass, OR 97526 Phone: 888-833-2148 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 53 mi Texaco 2371 Ashland St Ashland, OR 97520 Phone: 888-833-2148 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2, DC Fast Distance: 39 mi -[Level-3 EVSE ends, level-2 EVSE begins]- Pilot Flying J Truckstop 395 East Vista Drive, Weed, CA 96094 Level 2-only 65.8 mi Redding School of the Arts 955 Inspiration Way Redding, CA 96003 Phone: 888-998-2546 Fuel: Electric Electric charging types: Level 2 Distance: 0.06 mi 71.2 mi http://www.recargo.com/sites/9292 Winters Community Center 201 Railroad Avenue, Winters, CA 95694 Level 2-only 153 mi http://goo.gl/maps/usWaf Map of the above three l2 locations = too far apart [stopped searching] {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/BC2BC-2013-Tesla-iMiev-Leaf-RAV4EV-Gen2-e-motorcycles-ActiveE-tp4663368.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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