Mike Malmberg wrote:
Thank you Lee and Roland,  I deployed a resistor and capacitor as you
described and it works perfectly,

Excellent! I'm glad I could help.

I thought I would ask again for any explanation on how the 0-5k pot
works on the zilla to increase voltage (counter-intuitive)
and how does the BMS  affect that by reducing voltage?

I have a Zilla, but it has the hall-effect throttle option. My knowledge of how the Zilla works with a 0-5k pot is limited to what I read in the manual. And I know nothing at all about the Orion BMS. But maybe I can provide some general guidance. The standard arrangement for EV controllers that use a 0-5k pot box is:

 - Minimum resistance = minimum speed.
 - Maximum resistance = maximum speed.
 - Shorted pot wires forces the controller OFF.
        Actually, any resistance under a few hundred ohms is off.
 - Open pot wires also forces the controller OFF.
        Actually, any resistance over about 4500 ohms forces it off.

The circuit inside the controller is measuring the potbox RESISTANCE; not voltage. There are some special controllers that do measure voltage, or that have different resistance-versus-speed behaviors, but they are not very common.

Now, there are lots of ways the controller circuit can measure the potbox resistance. It can apply a voltage, and measure the resulting current. It can apply a current, and measure the voltage. It can create an oscillator, and use the potbox resistance to determine the frequency. You need to talk to someone very familiar with the design of the controller (like Otmar Ebenhoech for the Zilla) to get an accurate answer on this.

But, it's not really necessary that you know. It's only necessary that you set up your Orion BMS to change the *resistance* across the potbox terminals to limit the motor speed.

Did you say the Orion BMS has a relay that it turns on if any cell's voltage is low? If so, then you can use the contacts of that relay to switch a resistor in parallel with the potbox. If this resistor is 5k ohms, then:

 - With the relay OFF, the 5k is not connected. Your potbox has
        the normal 0-5k range, and you have 0-full throttle.
 - With the relay ON, there is a 5k resistor in parallel with the
        potbox. This reduces its resistance range to 0-2.5k.
        This in turn limits you to half throttle.

The Zilla also has a lot of programmable options. You can set it to cut back on the throttle, or even prevent you from driving if the total pack voltage falls under X volts. This is another way to keep from destroying cells if one goes dead.

--
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
        -- Albert Einstein
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Lee A. Hart, http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm
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