That would be highly appreciated.  I'm sure there are excellent people in
the standards group and I hope for the right solutions.

Peri

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Peter C. Thompson
Sent: 11 September, 2013 7:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Nissan Expanding Global EV Lineup To Five Models

Hi Peri,

I haven't seen any projections from the industry that would indicate 
200KW would be necessary - however, you do raise some good points. I'll 
see about getting those values into the specs.

Cheers, Peter

On 9/10/13 8:59 PM, Peri Hartman wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Considering that the current level 3 chargers do about 60kW and Tesla's
> supercharger will be 120kW, it seems that 75kW or even 100kW is still low
> for future planning.
>
> If someone wants to make a 300 mile trip, they're going to need to
recharge
> somewhere along the way.  Early adopters won't mind waiting an hour to
> charge, but I wonder if mainstream people would trade in their ICE with
> charge times that long.
>
> For example, to charge a 50kWh battery in 15 minutes, one would need a
200kW
> connection.  I'm concerned that we'll be spending a fortune on
> infrastructure only to find it becomes outdated by the time it is
installed.
> Am I being too optimistic or is that still beyond what the standards group
> thinks is going to be needed in the next 10 years?
>
> Peri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
> Of Peter C. Thompson
> Sent: 10 September, 2013 6:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Nissan Expanding Global EV Lineup To Five Models
>
> Hi Peri,
>
> I feel extremely lucky - I mean I built my own electric 914, and work in
> a company that provides free charging, and now I'm getting to work on
> wireless EV charging. :)
>
> As for the timeframe of the standard, I really don't know when it would
> become "reality". I suspect that by the end of next year it should be
> solid, perhaps even published.
>
> What the standards groups are planning for is power ranges up to 75KW or
> even 100KW. There are several companies that are content with 3.3KW, but
> my personal opinion is that this is entirely too short-sighted.  We
> shouldn't have to change the interconnects if we are going to shove more
> power through.
>
> Cheers, Peter
>
> On 9/10/13 8:48 AM, Peri Hartman wrote:
>> Peter, you are lucky to be in such a critical place of influence!  How
far
>> in the future are standards being designed for?  My quip has been that
> what
>> we have today will be inadequate once batteries can hold enough energy
for
>> 200+ miles per charge.  A whole new set of charging interconnects may be
>> needed, perhaps like what Tesla has.  I'd like to hear your thoughts on
>> this.
>>
>> Peri Hartman
>>
>>

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