At what outdoor temps, both yours Peri, and this other? Here in MN we're at -10F.
Peri Hartman <[email protected]> wrote: >This is good empirical evidence that Nissan has dramatically improved >the >cabin heat with the new heat pump system. In my '11 Leaf it takes >about 5 >minutes to heat the cabin and completely defrost. > >Peri > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf >Of brucedp5 >Sent: 23 January, 2014 5:50 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Real Leaf, Driving and living-with an EV > > > >% 'Heart-stopping terror', writer's fears> not an EV candidate % > >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/nissan/10564296/Living >-with-a-Nissan-Leaf.html >Living with a Nissan Leaf >by Neil Lyndon 16 Jan 2014 > >[image >http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02793/Nissan-Leaf_2793453b.jpg >Will driving a Nissan Leaf for a year convert us into electric car >enthusiasts? >] > >We report on the pros and cons of the Nissan Leaf electric car, one of >which >we have on long-term test > >Nissan Leaf electric car long-term review > >After five months with our Nissan Leaf long-term test car, here are our >thoughts on electric motoring. > >PROS: > > Our year's savings on petrol could pay for a holiday. On average, in >the >past, I have filled one tank a month. Since September, when I started >using >the Leaf full time, I have filled only one tank for a long trip in >the >family bus Peugeot 5008. So the 2p per mile cost of running the Leaf >electric car (setting aside purchase cost) will have saved us at least >£300. > > I have my own parking space in the heart of our town which is always >empty. No matter if it's Saturday morning or the middle of a busy >working >day, the two spaces for electric cars with recharging points which >the >council has provided at the municipal car park will always be vacant. >It's >bliss. I don't even have to buy a ticket to park (though you do have to >pay >for the electricity). > > The Leaf sets you apart (if you like that sort of thing). Never mind >your >Bentleys and Ferraris: if you go out in a Leaf, you can bet you won't >see >another. Ours seems to be the only one in daily use in Scotland, where >I >live. People stop and stare when it glides silently by. > > It's one of the best-built cars I've driven. Nissan reckons the 24 >kWh >lithium-ion battery will be good for 10 years. Nobody can be sure about >that >claim until 2023; but I'm confident the body and structure will last, >in >good order, at least a decade. No car that costs less than £100,000 >feels >more solid and resolutely built. With all the weight of that battery >under >the floor, its ride is as fluent and composed as a presidential >limousine. > > It heats up instantaneously, even in the depths of winter. If you >switch >on the Leaf's window heaters on a frosty morning, the ice on the glass >dissolves in seconds. Internal combustion engines take an age to warm >the >air in a car (and, meanwhile, their tailpipes are putting out noxious >gases >and carbon matter); but the zero-emissions Leaf gets cosy inside in no >time. > > It is changing my family's way of life. Since the Leaf arrived, I >have >embarked on a full-scale programme of reform to cut our household >energy >consumption. By the end of this year, I should be charging the car for >free >during the day with electricity generated from our own solar panels and >CHP >boiler, pumped through our Pod Point charging unit. > >CONS: > > I'd certainly love ours less if I'd had to pay for it. The Leaf we've >got >at home would cost £30,000-plus (less the £5,000 grant the Government >gives >to purchasers of every electric car). That's double the cost of a >similar-size Focus or Golf. You'd have to keep the Leaf for at least 10 >years to save that much money on fuel. > > They talk about range anxiety. Heart-stopping terror is more like it. >The >Leaf's nominal range of 80-plus miles on a fully charged battery is as >fanciful as the mpg figures manufacturers publish for conventional >cars. Any >round trip of more than 60 miles might give you a seizure as you watch >the >meter run down. More than once I have had to creep home with everything >switched off, looking out through a tiny slot of unmisted windscreen. > >THE FACTS >Nissan Leaf >Price as tested: £31,600 (less £5,000 govt grant) >Power: 80kW >Top speed: 90mph >Acceleration: 0-62 mph in 11.5sec >Average energy consumption: 150Wh/km >CO2 Emissions: nil >[© Telegraph Media Group Limited 2014] > > > > >For all EVLN posts use: >http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlSe >rvlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=evln&sort=date > >Here are today's archive-only EV posts: > >EVLN: BMW i5 electric hinted > a larger i3 >EVLN: $400+ Bosch plug-and-play eBike system r:12/72mi ts:20mph >EVLN: San Diego, CA EV parking spaces keep ice pollution down >EVLN: Kansas "kind of watching" plugins> eyeballing flat road-tax >+ >EVLN: Smart42ed Jeremy Scott Edition EV > > >{brucedp.150m.com} > > > >-- >View this message in context: >http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Real-Leaf- >Driving-and-living-with-an-EV-tp4667621.html >Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at >Nabble.com. >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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