Thanks Willie for your corrections, updates, & comments. -my comments below:


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014, at 05:24 AM, Willie2 wrote: ...
> The Tesla SuperChargers (not "superstations" 

-Correction made. I've seen the right term SuperCharger used, but I typo'd
the wrong one ...

> ...do indeed pump out 120kw (used to be 90kw) maximum.  It is 
> rumored to soon go to 150kw.  The cables are slender.  They do heat up 
> slightly.  It appears that the connector on the Tesla accepts 240vac for 
> the onboard chargers OR somewhere around 400vdc when plugged into a 
> SuperCharger.  I think there are only three electrical contacts in the 
> connector.  That is one reason for the compactness.  At a SuperCharger, 
> full power may be applied only when the battery is below about 1/2 
> capacity.  The charge power tapers as the battery fills.

-I did the charge current would taper, but didn't know at what SOC the EVSE
decided it would allow full charge current to flow. I wonder if the
connector gets warm/hot at full current flow(?)

> I don't have experience sharing a SuperCharger transformer (which 
> supports two charge stations) but I don't expect the cut back in power 
> to be very significant since max power is applied only when batteries 
> are very low.  I expect that two nearly empty Teslas can share a 
> transformer and still get fully charged within about 1.5 hours.

-Perhaps this is the reason for the patent, as though the schematic was
fuzzy, it looked like AC power could be shifted between station stalls.

> "Twin" on board chargers are available as an option.  A single charger 
> can pull as much as 40 amps at 240vac (10kw) and a twin charger can pull 
> as much as 80 amps.  The actual current pulled is mostly dependent on 
> the source.  The car senses the type of adapter being used and, 
> apparently, voltage to adjust current demand.  Also, the operator can 
> manually lower the current demand.  Typically, a Tesla might charge at 
> 40 amps on an RV outlet and 30 amps on a J1772.  I haven't seen one but 
> apparently Clipper Creek makes a J1772 that can supply 70amps;  it 
> should supply the full 40 amps to a single charger and almost full 
> current to a twin charger.  The EMW "JuiceBox" should also be able to 
> supply a Tesla up to 70 amps. Given the rareness of charging 
> opportunities with more than 40 amps, I did not buy the twin chargers.

- I knew this, but did not mention it as I was focusing on Tesla's level-3
differences and abilities. I know if I were to buy a Tesla-S, I would go for
the dual on-board charger if I could ID where the 100A L2 sources were.
Perhaps the Tesla forum has built a list of where they are.
 
> Tesla is soon to offer a chademo adapter.

- I had seen this
http://shop.teslamotors.com/products/chademo-adapter
but I did not mention it because it is still listed in the "coming soon"
category.


> I believe I've previously posted my trip report.  It pretty graphically 
> demonstrates the difference SuperChargers make.
> http://www.austinfarm.org/homegrown/tripreport.html
> 
> When I bought my Tesla, I had no real expectation of the SuperCharger 
> network coming into existence.  I have been VERY pleasantly surprised.  
> It seems that Tesla has fulfilled essentially all promises made.  They 
> are now highly credible in my estimation. I completely agree with the 
> Consumer Reports evaluation of Tesla. It is the best car I have owned.  
> I'm at about 35k miles now.
-


I am wondering if Tesla will offer a SuperCharger ability option on the
coming Model-E that consumers can opt to buy, same as Leaf buyers can opt to
buy a CHAdeMO port? I think that would be wise, as it can only help with
sales. 

I also understand that the Tesla-E will be targeting the buyers that want a
less costly Tesla and may opt to not want pay for the SuperCharger port and
its use-fee. I have not read anything on if that is going to happen nor what
it will cost the consumer. I look forward to knowing it :-)


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