On 2014-05-08, at 20:33, Michael Ross wrote:

> I hear power density discussed...some chemistries have more or less of 
> this....
> Power has a time component so maybe power density has to do with how fast you 
> can get the work done with a battery?  Probably a structural issue more so 
> than a chemistry issue?

That makes sense, since power is the rate at which energy is transformed, such 
as BTU/hr.

But I'm a bit stymied by the "power density" of a battery. It makes sense in 
guesstimating how much acceleration you can get out of a vehicle, but I don't 
know what it would tell you about a battery.

For example, Veggie Van Gogh (http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com) has a 105 
horsepower engine and a gross weight of about five metric tonnes, a power 
density of about 16 kilowatts per megagram. That's not far from my diesel 
Vanagon, which has 49 HP and 2.4 metric tonnes, for 15.2 kW/Mg. And yet, the 
five-ton step van seems "peppier" than the Volkswagen, probably due to more 
low-end torque.

After conversion to electric, the Vanagon will have half the power density, at 
8.7 kW/Mg, from a TransWarP 9 with 28 horsepower and the same gross weight 
rating. But I'm hoping it will seem much peppier than that, because a 
series-wound motor can give full torque at low RPMs.

:::: So long as humans were well fed and entertained adequately, they'd submit 
to increasingly draconian intrusions into their private lives. -- Thom Hartmann
:::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ::::

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