How exactly is it that Fiat can't produce a teensy car with a tiny battery for less than $46k when small (i.e. lacking economies of scale) upstart Tesla is able to rake in 25% gross margins on a massive, high-performance luxury car with 3x the battery that starts at 70k (which puts the production cost around 56k)? And oh yeah, Nissan turns a profit on its $29000 leaf, too.
Is it possible we don't need compliance cars anymore? Now that Tesla/Nissan/GM have shown that demand is real and are making money off EV's, why force them to compete with the deadbeat Fiats of the world? My $0.02 On May 23, 2014, at 3:54 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > http://autos.aol.com/article/fiat-chryler-ceo-please-dont-buy-the-fiat-500e/ > Fiat-Chryler CEO: Please Don't Buy The Fiat 500e > May 21, 2014 > > [image > http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/28007ffd7f2a724d2fc78386e2d1dac0/200147006/01-2013-fiat-500-turbo-review.jpg > The 500e is costing Fiat $14,000 each time it sells (Fiat) > ] > > Company loses $14,000 on ever electric vehicle > > Fiat-Chrysler's CEO had a strange request for electric vehicle shoppers on > Wednesday: don't buy the all-electric Fiat 500e. > > While CEO Sergio Marchionne was speaking at a conference in Washington, he > told the crowd he's tired of Chrysler-Fiat losing money, The Detroit News > reported. > > "I hope you don't buy it (the 500e), because every time I sell one, it costs > me $14,000," he said to the audience at the Brookings Institution. "I'm > honest enough to tell you that." > > Marchionne said federal and state fuel efficiency mandates are forcing the > automaker to build unprofitable cars, according to Reuters. A normal Fiat > 500 starts at almost $17,300, and the 500e starts at $32,650, before federal > and state tax credits. There is no sales data to indicate how the 500e is > performing. > [© 2014 AOL] > ... > http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140521/AUTO0101/305210092/Marchionne-Fiat-loses-14K-every-electric-500 > Marchionne: Fiat loses $14K on every electric 500 > May 21, 2014 > ... > http://news.boldride.com/2014/05/fiat-ceo-tells-customers-to-not-buy-one-of-his-cars-but-which-one/49355/ > 'Fiat-Chrysler CEO would rather customers not buy the Fiat 500e EV' > 22 May 2014 > ... > http://www.complex.com/rides/2014/05/fiat-ceo-sergio-marchionne-500e > Fiat CEO: "Don't Buy a Fiat 500e" > May 22, 2014 > > > > For all EVLN posts use: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_page&node=413529&query=evln&sort=date > > http://www.autoworldnews.com/articles/7424/20140514/teslas-elon-musk-200-gigafactories-will-be-needed.htm > Musk sez '200 Gigafactories' Will Be Needed > > http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/05/13/3437155/batteries-sold-first-quarter-2014/ > Sales Of Hybrid And Electric Car Batteries Have Tripled In Three Years > > http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/panasonic-signs-letter-of-intent-on-tesla-gigafactory/story-e6frg90f-1226914396206 > Panasonic signs 'letter of intent' on Tesla gigafactory > > http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/13/5695442/my-house-is-my-gas-station-and-so-is-yours > My house is my gas station (and so is yours) > > http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/05/adorable-elderly-couple-buy-matching-teslas/ > Adorable Couple Buy Matching His&Her Tesla-S EVs > + > EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives this spring > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Their-CEO-sez-Don-t-buy-the-Fiat-500e-EV-tp4669611.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
