Hi Peri, Lee and All,

                     Now that good lithium, BMS is available at good prices 
combined with composite  making lightweight EV's finally brings long range EV's 
being viable at a reasonable cost.  And if I want the FreedomEV has the weight, 
space capacity from it's long range lead pack design for 450-500 mile range if 
I wanted to.

                       Probably stick with under 150 miles to save weight,  
cost plus higher performance  and a 45lb range extender I'm building for long 
trips. Though a record breaking one would be interesting.  Say crossing the US 
on 6 charges or longest EV car,  MC or subcar.

                         It also allows many, not just me to build rather great 
EV's.  Think of an all composite 64 Vette EV / 'USbody 63 Corvette'  keyword 
for the beautiful body, using low cost stock glass and fitted doors, etc   with 
a 300hp EV drive and racing suspension with 300 mile range yet only weigh 
1800lb it allows at just $45k as a 1 off showcar. I've built a universal 
chassis , body mold so I can do custom cars faster too.  Someone building  5-10 
of these/yr could make a good living.

                          I know what you are saying Lee.  I've read almost  
every issue of Popular Science and Popular Mechanics, others, some into the 
1890's and we just keep 'inventing' the same thing over and over again.  I 
guess I'm weird as I did that as entertainment I see as far more interesting 
that TV, before computers were common!!

                                                                             
Jerry Dycus 


On Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:06 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> 
wrote:
  


Good to hear.  I'd like to see you achieve your goal of a 250 mile range 
ev!

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From: "jerry freedomev" <[email protected]>
To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "evdl" <[email protected]>; 
"Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 28-Jun-14 1:49:03 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fw: 3d printing auto body

>Hi Peri and All,
>
>          I could but I've already made a far stronger one and have the 
>tooling to make more if I get an order.  It'll be quite a while before 
>3d printing can beat it in strength/weight ratio or speed of building 
>in $ we can afford. I think for a while 3D printing will be limited to 
>prototypes, mold forms, to make production tooling from and very high 
>value products   .
>
>   It's not a fast process. Likely a car would take days depending on 
>how much is done.
>
>   Got another wood/epoxy one  legally still the Ewoody but very aero, 
>nice I need for long distance  transportation.   I'm doing the skin on 
>now and finishing up the drivetrain.  Just got the airspring shocks , 
>steering tie rods so I can finish the suspension. Not easy on SSI 
>income but coming along.
>
>   Next I finally have the suspension, etc designs for the FreedomEV 
>production, just need good transport to get that together which will be 
>next.  Once in running order hopefully with a used Leaf pack if I used 
>it all would be a 250 mile range EV should !!   With that it shouldn't 
>be any problems getting more orders.
>
>   Watching the auto auctions hoping to get a totaled Leaf so bad no one 
>else wants it. though likely have to sell half the pack to afford it.  
>If not I'll just go lead and a range extender Like my new Ewoody until 
>some lithium modules fall my way.
>
>                                                                  Jerry 
>Dycus
>
>
>
>
>On Saturday, June 28, 2014 3:51 PM, Peri Hartman via EV 
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>Attn: Jerry Dycus
>
>------ Forwarded Message ------
>From: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>
>To: "Jerry Dycus" <[email protected]>
>Sent: 28-Jun-14 9:09:47 AM
>Subject: 3d printing auto body
>
> >Hi Jerry,
> >
> >I saw this article via EV World and thought of you.  I wonder if you
> >could access and make your Freedom EV body with a 3D printer?
> >Combining that with some stock parts - particularly windshield and 
>door
> >glass - you could make a very streamlined body that meets your
> >lightweight and functional requirements.  Have you looked into this at
> >all?
> >
> >http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/06/16/strati-is-soon-to-be-the-worlds-first-3-d-printed.aspx
>
> >Peri
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